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This episode offers an insightful exploration of the dynamic world of peer support. The hosts shed light on the distinction between peers in a workplace setting and the unique role of peer support—individuals who have weathered life's challenges, gained valuable insights, and emerged as compassionate pillars of support.

The peer support landscape has evolved significantly in recent years, boasting comprehensive programs at both state and organizational levels. From certifications to mental health peers and even within 12-step programs, the peer support community continues to expand.
Cinnamon emphasizes the critical role played by peers as conduits, acting as bridges between those seeking support and the information, guidance, and empathy they require. Their discussions delve into the nuances of peer connections, the impact of shared experiences, and the power of a supportive community.
The hosts explore how individuals often first encounter peer support before considering professional help. Peer recommendations serve as gateways to further assistance, creating a chain of support that builds trust and rapport.
Touching on the listener's key takeaways, the hosts underscore the importance of peer-to-peer connections and the significance of genuine, relatable conversations. They delve into the emotional first responder role that peers play, highlighting their immediate response and the dedication they bring to their voluntary roles, available 24/7.

Erin and Cinnamon delve into the emotional and empathetic nature of peer support, emphasizing its pivotal role in crisis intervention and the ability to guide individuals towards outside resources or treatment when necessary. They paint a vivid picture of the passion and commitment displayed by peers, who go beyond mandatory training, viewing it as an exciting opportunity for personal and professional growth.
In addition, the hosts touch on an upcoming event taking place in Northern Kentucky where resources, peers and speakers come together for 2 days in the name of men

🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨

Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY, for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast, this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE!

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After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information.

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Code Solidarity: Navigating Challenges Through Peer Support

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The Regret Scam: No Wrong Path-Just Different Lessons 26:40

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Send us a text Alright, let’s get real. How many times have you sat there, paralyzed by a decision, convinced that one wrong move is going to send your entire life into a downward spiral? (Looking at you, late-night overthinkers.) Well, Cinnamon’s taking the wheel in this episode, and she’s bringing some serious perspective shifts. What if there’s no such thing as a “right” or “wrong” decision? What if every choice—good, bad, or straight-up questionable—just leads you down a different road with its own set of lessons? Ever think about how many times you’ve chosen one route and hit every damn red light, only to realize that the road not taken could’ve had a six-car pileup ? Yeah. Let that sink in. In this episode, we’re challenging the myth of perfect choices and unpacking: How hindsight bias makes us glorify the “what if” road Why a pro/con list is basically lying to you How curiosity—not fear—should be driving your lifeAnd why we all need to stop expecting every road to be a freaking smooth cruise Bottom line? Stop beating yourself up over the choices you made. Every decision, every misstep, and every unexpected detour is a damn good chapter in your story. Now, buckle up and press play. Takeaway of the Week: You’ve survived every single choice you’ve made so far—so what makes you think you won’t survive the next one? 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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Stranger Than Fiction: 100th Episode Final Push-Part C 1:28:46

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Send us a text Alright, friends, here we are—the final round of our After the Tones Drop 100th episode celebration. Part C, the big finish. And if Parts A & B took you on an emotional rollercoaster, this one is the comedy club you didn’t know you needed. We packed the room with some of our most legendary guests, and things got real fast—laughs, deep conversations, and maybe a few inappropriate jokes. This episode brings back Chris Perry, the man behind Episode 70, Full Throttle Freedom , who’s still as patriotic as ever and pushing the needle on first responder mental health. William Young, from Episodes 48 and 59, Jailhouse Rock , is back reminding us why corrections officers deserve a seat at the table in the mental health conversation. Ricardo Martinez II, Episode 68, Call Me Maybe , and the voice behind Within the Trenches and the I Am 911 movement, joins us to talk about the power of storytelling in first responder wellness. And rounding out the guest list, Jason Callihan, the very first guest from Episode 1, Strength in Numbers , who played a huge role in launching this whole thing into existence, shares what peer support looks like when it’s done right. We get into everything—what’s changed since these guests first joined us, what’s still frustrating as hell, and why the biggest obstacle to first responder wellness is often ourselves. We talk about how older generations might secretly be on board with mental health but are too stubborn to say it out loud, the importance of recognizing post-traumatic growth alongside PTSD, and how real change in first responder culture is happening, even if it’s moving at a crawl. This episode is full of unfiltered, unscripted truth. It’s got heart, humor, and a room full of people who get it—people who have lived this work, fought through their own battles, and refuse to let the system stay broken. We love you. We see you. And we are so damn grateful for 100 episodes. We’re Not Stopping Here. This isn’t just a celebration of 100 episodes—it’s a reminder of why we do this. We 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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Advocates for Change: 100 Episodes of Healing and Hope-Part B 1:29:51

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Send us a text Welcome back to Part B of our 100th episode celebration! If you thought Part A was powerful, you’re in for a real treat here. This episode dives even deeper into the struggles, the triumphs, and the raw honesty that our guests bring. We’re talking real change in the first responder world—personal transformation, shifting the culture, and the tough work of showing up even when it feels like the world’s against you. We’re joined by Tim Sears , who shares his journey through inpatient treatment, retirement, and his ongoing commitment to his own wellness. Tim’s vulnerability in admitting when it’s time to take a step back and care for himself is a reminder for all of us—there’s no shame in needing help. Jason Warn brings us back to a time when everything fell apart, and he found himself at rock bottom again. It’s the kind of honesty that’s hard to come by, but that’s exactly why it matters. Monica Braun continues to be a beacon of strength, using her experience to help others—she’s speaking to new recruits, sharing her story, and breaking the stigma every chance she gets. And we can’t forget Michael Sugrue , who’s no stranger to hardship. After facing an unimaginable family tragedy, Michael walks us through how he found his way back to hope and continues to serve with strength. Lastly, Vance Row keeps the energy high, sharing how yoga has become an essential tool in his own recovery and why it’s something every first responder should consider incorporating into their lives. These voices—these leaders—are showing us what real change looks like. It’s messy, it’s difficult, and it takes time. But it’s happening. Slowly, but surely, the culture is shifting. In this episode, our guests remind us that we’re in this together, and that change begins when we step up, own our stories, and do the work. Stay Connected : Listen, share, and let’s keep this conversation going. The more we talk about these things, the more lives we can change. Keep showing up for yourself, and keep showing up for each other. The work isn’t over. We’re just getting 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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Rising Together: 100th Episode Celebration-Part A 1:18:36

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Send us a text We made it to our 100th episode, and we couldn’t be more excited to celebrate with you all! For this milestone, we’re bringing back 14 incredible guests in a 3 part series who have each made a significant impact not just on our show, but in the lives of many. These individuals are true advocates—those who’ve walked through the fire and emerged with the strength, wisdom, and compassion to help others. Their stories are proof that vulnerability, resilience, and community are the key to healing and growth. This is Part A of our 3-part anniversary celebration, and it’s packed with powerful insights. We’re catching up with these guests to find out where they are now and what they’ve been up to since their original appearances. From new books to life-changing milestones, this episode is all about reflecting on the journey, sharing wins, and offering the tough love that helps us all keep moving forward. We’re joined by AK Dozanti a retired law enforcement officer and author who just released her book, Beat the Burnout . AK opens up about pushing through imposter syndrome to share her story and the catharsis that came with writing a book designed to help others recover from burnout. Brian Gillespie, a retired law enforcement officer and Marine Corps veteran, shares his experience reaching 10 years of sobriety and how prioritizing self-care has become a game-changer in both his personal life and his advocacy work. Larry Turner, a retired law enforcement officer and military veteran, talks about his ongoing work with Save A Warrior and how his journey through vulnerability and healing has shaped the way he supports others. Kenny Mitchell, a retired firefighter and the founder of Operation Yellow Tape, reflects on the incredible growth of his initiative and the number of people reaching out for help, including the spouses and families of first responders. And we also have Tommy Bolin, a retired firefighter and soon-to-be published author, who gives us a sneak peek into his upcoming book that connects public service professionals across the board in their mental health journeys. 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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Brain Wars: Decoding the Male & Female Mind 22:24

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Send us a text Alright, friends, it’s just me, Erin, flying solo today, and we’re diving into a topic that might just save some relationships—or at least prevent a few unnecessary arguments. Ever found yourself in a conversation with your spouse, coworker, or friend and walked away wondering, what the hell just happened? You’re not alone. Today, we’re unpacking the science behind why men and women process the world so differently, and spoiler alert—it’s not just some outdated stereotype. It’s biology, baby. Believe it or not, our brains are wired differently before we even leave the womb. While men’s brains are built for focus, problem-solving, and risk assessment, women’s brains are firing on all cylinders for multitasking, emotional processing, and communication. This isn’t about one being better than the other; it’s about understanding how those differences play out in real life. From the infamous Nothing Box that men retreat to (yes, it’s a real thing) to why women can’t help but pick up on every little emotional shift in the room, we’re breaking it all down. So if you’ve ever been frustrated that your partner doesn’t seem to listen when the game is on or you can’t figure out why they don’t just talk about their feelings already—this episode is for you. We’re taking it back to the caveman days, digging into neuroscience, and giving you some tools to work with these differences instead of against them. Because, let’s be real—understanding why your brain does what it does (and why theirs does something totally different) might just change the game. What You'll Learn: Why men and women’s brains are wired differently (and how it started in utero) The evolutionary reasons behind how we process emotions and stress What the infamous Nothing Box is and why women can’t seem to find one Why men laser-focus on one task while women juggle 20 things at once How understanding these differences can make your relationships smoother, not harder Takeaway of the Week: Stop trying to ch 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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Mind Over Madness-Part 2: With Sean McCallum 47:42

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Send us a text Alright, folks—we’re back with Part 2 of our powerhouse conversation with Sean McCallum, and if you thought last week’s episode was a game-changer, just wait. If you missed Part 1, go back and listen because we laid the groundwork for this one—identity shifts, trauma integration, and why first responders get stuck in old patterns. Now, we’re diving straight into the COPE Stress Management Model, aka the CPR for Stress . Sean and his colleague, Johnny Ward, developed COPE as a simple but powerful tool for first responders to manage stress before, during, and after a critical incident—because let’s be real, nobody is handing firefighters, medics, or cops a playbook on how to process what they see on the job. Sean breaks down what COPE actually stands for—Control, Orientation, Processing, and Emotions—and how responders can use it in real time to avoid getting stuck in the mental loops that lead to burnout and PTSD. He also drops some serious truth bombs on why we need to stop teaching avoidance in therapy, the difference between distraction and repression, and how empowering first responders with the right tools could actually change the way we handle trauma in the field. We also get into a wild discussion on metapsychology, trauma integration, and why therapy shouldn’t be about “mastering” someone else’s experience. Oh, and somewhere in there, Sean teaches us new British slang, we geek out over A Course in Miracles , and Erin & Cinnamon once again prove they are the firehouse’s long-lost crew members. Why You Need to Listen Learn how the COPE Model can help you stay grounded before, during, and after critical incidents Why trauma isn’t a life sentence—and why getting through it is the only way out The biggest mistakes we make when treating first responders—and how we can fix them Why nodding, reacting, and “being supportive” might actually make trauma worse (Yeah, we had to sit with that one for a minute.) Firefighter banter, accidental British slang lessons, and a side quest about Save a Warr 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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Mind Over Madness-Part 1: With Sean McCallum 1:21:56

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Send us a text Get buckled up because this episode is a big one. We’re kicking off a two-part series with the one and only Sean McCallum, and let’s just say—this guy gets it . Sean isn’t your average firefighter. Sure, he’s spent 22+ years in the fire service and serves as an operational watch manager with the Nottinghamshire Fire and Rescue Service in the UK. But beyond that? He’s a veteran, crisis intervention specialist, trauma consultant, and children’s author who’s developed innovative mental health frameworks like the Crisis Psychological First Aid Model and the COPE Stress Management Model ( aka the CPR for Stress ). Oh, and he also wrote The Joy Thief , a book teaching kids about trauma—because he’s just that next-level. We knew this conversation was going to be good. We didn’t know we’d be sitting there with our jaws on the floor half the time. Sean breaks down the concept of identity transition—why it’s crucial for first responders to shift from work mode to home mode if they want to keep their relationships (and their sanity) intact. He also delivers a mic-drop moment on trauma, explaining that it’s not actually about the event itself—it’s about the intention you couldn’t fulfill in that moment. Let that one sink in. We also dive into his COPE Stress Management Model, which gives first responders practical steps to manage stress before, during, and after a critical incident. And we can’t forget The Joy Thief —the book he wrote to help kids understand trauma, inspired by his own daughters and their innocent but wildly insightful view on emotions. Somewhere in the middle of all this, we also get a crash course in British slang, a deep dive into the psychology of trauma, and the realization that we’re all just trying to complete unfinished business from our past. No big deal. If you’ve ever felt stuck in your trauma, lost without your job title, or like you’re still trying to “fix” something from 10 years ago, this episode is for you. And if you’re a firefighter, cop, medic, dispatcher, or literally anyone trying to balance who 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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Cool Story, Bro! How to Lose a Goal in 10 Excuses & the Power of YET 24:08

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Send us a text Alright folks, buckle up because today Erin and Cinnamon are calling out that sneaky, progress-blocking beast: self-sabotage. We all do it. We all have that little voice that says, "Why even try?" or "You're just gonna fail anyway." Well, guess what? That voice is full of crap. In this episode, we break down why we sabotage ourselves, how fear plays the biggest role in keeping us stuck, and most importantly, how one tiny word— yet — can shut that nonsense down. That’s right. The difference between "I can’t do this" and "I can’t do this… yet" is a game-changer. If you’ve ever found yourself procrastinating, stuck in perfectionism, or talking yourself out of success, this episode is for you. Get ready to reframe your mindset, challenge that inner critic, and learn how to keep moving forward, even when self-doubt comes knocking. What You'll Learn: Why self-sabotage happens and how to spot it The role of fear in keeping us stuck How one simple word can rewire your brain for success The importance of celebrating small wins Practical steps to break free from self-sabotaging patterns Challenge of the Week: The next time you catch yourself in a self-doubt spiral, tack on "yet" to the end of the sentence. "I’m not good at this… yet." "I haven’t figured this out… yet." Pay attention to how that one little word shifts your mindset, and let us know how it goes! Tag us on social media or drop us a message—we love hearing from you! 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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Feelings Aren't Facts:Taking Things Personally-A Masterclass in Misery 28:53

6 weeks ago28:53

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Send us a text Taking things personally can strain relationships, yet so many of us struggle to step back and give others the space they need. In this episode of After the Tones Drop , Cinnamon and Erin dive into why we internalize others' emotions and reactions—and how to break that habit. Drawing from The Four Agreements: A Practical Guide to Personal Freedom by Don Miguel Ruiz, they explore why resisting the urge to “fix” someone’s feelings can actually strengthen relationships and prevent unnecessary conflict. They discuss why we tend to take things personally, how pushing for answers or solutions can backfire, what happens when we try to "fix" our loved ones, and how to give people space to process without making it about our own discomfort. Erin even puts herself on blast, admitting how much this lesson applies in her own marriage, while Cinnamon confesses to rewriting the Laverne & Shirley theme song in her head. It’s real talk, a little tough love, and a lot of laughs. If you've ever found yourself demanding answers, defending yourself when emotions run high, or assuming someone’s mood is about you , this episode is for you. The challenge of the week is to resist the urge to pry when someone you care about is upset but doesn’t want to talk. Let them come to you, and when they do, just listen. Don’t react, don’t take it personally, and see what happens. 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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Brotherhood Betrayal: With Ed Monroe 1:09:31

7 weeks ago1:09:31

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Send us a text In this powerful episode of After the Tones Drop , we sit down with Captain Ed Monroe, a 16-year veteran of the LA County Fire Department, whose life and leadership were forever changed by a tragic critical incident within his department in 2021. Ed opens up about the unimaginable day when a colleague took the life of one of their brothers, shot another and permanently wounded him, then took his life—and the lasting ripple effects on the entire agency. From navigating grief and leadership under extreme pressure to the long-term impact of trauma on the fire service, Ed shares his journey of vulnerability, resilience, and the hard lessons learned. He candidly discusses his shift from skepticism about mental health support to becoming an advocate for therapy and peer support. Tune in to hear how Ed's personal story is a testament to the importance of mental health in first responder communities, the cultural shifts happening in peer support, and the relentless pursuit of breaking down stigmas. What You'll Learn: The challenges of leading through personal and organizational grief How critical incidents can redefine your understanding of mental health The importance of seeking help and the transformative power of therapy Cultural shifts in the fire service regarding peer support and mental health The personal and professional aftermath of traumatic events 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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When Words Fail: The Worst Things to Say to Someone Grieving 42:01

8 weeks ago42:01

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Send us a text Grief is one of those things that hits everyone differently, and let’s be honest—most of us suck at knowing what to say when someone we care about is going through it. Whether it's at a funeral, in a sympathy card, or just a well-meaning text, people often default to the same old clichés that do more harm than good. Today, Erin and Cinnamon dive deep into what NOT to say when supporting someone who’s grieving —because while words can’t fix grief, they sure as hell can make it worse. From the classic “They’re in a better place” to the infuriating “Everything happens for a reason” , they’re breaking down why these phrases can feel dismissive, invalidating, or just plain annoying. More importantly, they offer real alternatives —the things that may help when someone is drowning in loss. Spoiler: it’s less about what you say and more about how you show up . Key Takeaways from This Episode: Ditch the clichés. Phrases like “At least they lived a long life” or “God has a plan” can feel dismissive. Instead, acknowledge their pain with “I’m so sorry for your loss” or “I can’t imagine how hard this must be for you.” Grief isn’t a competition. Telling someone “I know exactly how you feel” might seem like empathy, but no two losses are the same. Instead, offer space with “I’m here for you.” “Stay strong” isn’t always helpful. Being vulnerable isn’t weak—it’s human. Instead of pressuring someone to keep it together, remind them “It’s okay to feel whatever you’re feeling.” Loss isn’t something to ‘move on’ from. Telling someone “Time heals all wounds” or “You’ll move on in time” is a one-way ticket to an eye roll. Instead, remind them that grief has no timeline and that you’ll be there through it. Don’t make them ask for help. Instead of “Let me know if you need anything,” offer something specific: “Can I bring dinner over at 5?” or “I’ll pick up groceries for yo 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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The Other "F" Words: A Deeper Dive into Stress Responses 30:23

9 weeks ago30:23

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Send us a text Ever heard of the fight-or-flight response? Of course you have. But what about the other F words—freeze, fawn, and faint? No, we’re not kidding. In this episode of After the Tones Drop , Erin and Cinnamon take a hilarious yet insightful dive into the often-overlooked stress responses that make up our brain’s survival playbook. This conversation will have you rethinking everything you thought you knew about how we handle stress and high-pressure moments. From breaking down what each response looks like to sharing real-world examples and personal anecdotes (yes, goats made the cut), Erin and Cinnamon explore how these F words show up in everyday life, on the job, and in relationships. They also tackle why recognizing these responses can help you manage stress better—and how they’re not signs of weakness, but your body’s way of trying to protect you. Key Takeaways: Fight and Flight Aren’t the Only Players: Stress isn’t always about going full battle mode or running away. Freeze, fawn, and faint are just as normal (and important). Freeze = Hit Pause: When your brain says “time out,” your body goes into freeze mode. It’s not about giving up—it’s about giving yourself time to recalibrate. Fawn = People-Pleasing: Ever bent over backwards to keep the peace? That’s your brain’s way of saying, “If I keep everyone happy, I’ll stay safe.” But let’s be honest, that doormat award isn’t worth the cost to your soul. Faint = System Overload: Sometimes, your body just hits the emergency shut-off switch. Think goats. Enough said. Recognize the F Words: Knowing which stress response you default to can help you manage it better. Awareness is the first step. You’re Not a Robot: Humans aren’t machines. It’s okay to hit pause, ask for help, and admit you’re not fine. Erin & Cinnamon’s Challenge: The next time you’re stressed, stop for a moment and ask yourself: Which F word am I using? Is it freeze, fawn, faint, fight, or flight? Naming it is the first step to managi 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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Rest Without the Risk: With Jon Vought 1:17:46

10 weeks ago1:17:46

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Send us a text Let’s talk about the impossible balancing act of being a firefighter, running a business, and still managing to take care of yourself. That’s exactly what today’s guest, Jon Vought, is doing. Jon is a 15-year veteran firefighter and the founder of Rescue One CBD , a company dedicated to helping first responders improve their sleep, manage stress, and reduce inflammation—all without risking their careers. After struggling with his own recovery from surgery and dealing with the ripple effects of poor sleep, Jon decided enough was enough. He went all-in on creating a product that would work for people like him, navigating long shifts, relentless stress, and the stigma around wellness in the fire service. During our conversation, Jon gets real about what it’s like to juggle two demanding lives—firefighter by day, wellness entrepreneur by... well, also by day (and night, and whatever hours he can grab). He opens up about the struggles of maintaining boundaries, the trial-and-error process of developing a CBD product that’s truly safe for first responders, and the ridiculous hurdles he’s faced to make it happen. Seriously, did you know he had to hire scientists in Denver to ensure his product had zero THC? We’re talking microscopic precision here, people. We also dive into the science behind CBD and why it’s a game-changer for recovery. Jon explains how CBD promotes REM sleep, reduces inflammation, and even supports mental health. And no, it’s not all buzzwords—he backs it up with research (and a personal stash of studies he calls his "CBD Bible"). He also tackles common misconceptions, like whether you can use CBD on-duty or how to handle concerns about drug tests. Spoiler: Jon’s CBD is the only firefighter-specific product that guarantees zero THC, so you don’t have to choose between better sleep and keeping your job. But this episode isn’t just about the technical stuff. It’s about the heart of the fire service. Jon reminds us that taking care of yourself isn’t weak—it’s essential if you want to keep doing the job you love. Whether you’re running calls at 3 a.m. or t 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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Sharing the Load: When Giving Your All Means Less Than Half 25:38

11 weeks ago25:38

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Send us a text This episode, we're unpacking a concept that's been a game changer for us and many others: the idea that relationships don't need to be 50/50 all the time but should rather aim for 100% collectively, however that splits. Inspired by Brene Brown's insights on vulnerability and support, we're talking about how sometimes, you might only have 20% to give, and that's perfectly okay—as long as the people in your life are ready to step up and fill in the rest. We're also sharing our harrowing week battling an epic Ohio snowstorm, making every commute an adventure. Plus, our hearts are with everyone affected by the devastating wildfires in California. We had the chance to chat with a LA County firefighter just days before the fires erupted, and the stories of bravery and resilience are nothing short of inspiring. So, whether you're giving 10% or 90% today, remember, it's about finding balance, communication, and mutual support. We've seen relationships transform through this understanding and hope you can take away something that helps you look at your interactions a little differently. 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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Mountie Mentality: With Brad Savage 1:07:31

12 weeks ago1:07:31

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Send us a text It’s not easy to admit you’re struggling, especially when you’re supposed to be the strong one. Brad Savage, a 15-year veteran of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, knows this better than most. From serving in Canada’s largest cities to its most remote communities, Brad has seen and endured more than many can imagine. But his story isn’t just about the job; it’s about the unspoken struggles and silent battles so many first responders face—and the courage it takes to confront them. In this episode, Brad opens up about his trauma, loss, and resilience journey. From his officer-involved shooting to personal tragedies, he shares how he once believed he had to carry it all alone. But finding Save a Warrior changed everything. Brad explains how diving deep into his past helped him understand that the job wasn’t the root of his struggles—it was the unhealed trauma from long before. He talks about the tools that helped him heal, including the surprising impact of meditation, which gave him space to pause, reflect, and reconnect with his family. Brad’s story is a raw and honest look at the reality of life as a first responder. He doesn’t shy away from the hard truths like the cultural tendency to avoid vulnerability or the toll secondary trauma can take on families and coworkers. Yet, his message is one of hope. He shares why he’s passionate about peer support, how he’s breaking the stigma of mental health in policing, and why learning to “share your experience without sharing your trauma” is a game-changer for first responders everywhere. This episode is packed with insight, humanity, and practical advice for anyone navigating trauma. Brad’s reflections remind us that vulnerability isn’t weakness; it’s where true strength begins. Learn more about Save a Warrior 🚨 4th Annual Tactical Tools for Thriving Symposium 🚨 Join us May 5th at St. Elizabeth Training Center, Erlanger, KY , for a day dedicated to first responder mental health. Hosted by Kentucky First Responder Peer Support Team and After the Tones Drop Podcast , this event delivers real talk, resources, and resilience. Mark your calendar and Register HERE ! DISCLAIMER: After the Tones Drop has been presented and sponsored by Whole House Counseling. After the Tones Drop is for informational purposes only and does not constitute for medical or psychological advice. It is not a substitute for professional health care advice diagnosis or treatment. Please contact a local mental health professional in your area if you are in need of assistance. You can also visit our shows resources page for an abundance of helpful information. ATTD Music Credits ( Music from #Uppbeat): https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/adventure-is-calling License code: ANJCYVHRMULSNKQR https://uppbeat.io/t/vens-adams/rise-of-the-hero License code: H4WTAGJZIXZCM8DM https://uppbeat.io/t/yeti-music/homewardLicense code: KO7FZAIJBAEAJLKE https://uppbeat.io/t/sonda/the-heart-grows License code: KAID0ITO96GJZAPS https://uppbeat.io/t/philip-anderson/achievement License code: XZ4PMCKHW94GUR74 https://uppbeat.io/t/tobias-voigt/nexus License code: MVMDRGHKHTJRABVR https://uppbeat.io/t/paul-yudin/breakthrough License code: FYPM3OJF0NQ4OGTE…

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