A podcast for people who like the unexpected. Join the surgeon and academic Professor Roger Kneebone in conversation with unorthodox people whose careers defy traditional boundaries and who swim against the tide. Technical support by Justin Margovan - with my thanks My personal website www.rogerkneebone.co.uk Many of the people in Countercurrent feature in my book Expert: Understanding the Path to Mastery (Penguin Viking, 2020) https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/313/313248/expert/9780241392058.html
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Lessons from emergency medicine and beyond about performing when it matters the most and applying knowledge under pressure.
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Emma Barker in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Dr Emma Barker is an art historian and academic who teaches and researches at the Open University. She specialises in eighteenth-century French art and she is currently exploring ideas around art and blindness. https://www.open.ac.uk/people/eb38
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Ep 108: Andrew Rixon and Sam Wilson on Exploring Leadership in Emergencies
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In this episode of The Emergency Mind Podcast, Dr. Dan Dworkis discusses high-pressure leadership with Andrew Rickson and Samuel Wilson. Andrew, a leadership coach and director at Griffith Business School, along with Sam, a social psychologist and founder of the Australian Leadership Index, share their experiences and research on emergency medicine…
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Anne Desmet in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Anne Desmet RA is a distinguished wood engraver, print maker and Royal Academician. Fascinated by the idea of metamorphosis, her imaginative works often draw on architectural themes. We discuss how her work has evolved over several decades, and how she brings together a wide range of styles and techniques. https://annedesmet.com…
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EP 107: Finding Your Center with Mike Taigman
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Emergency Mind Episode 107: Mike Taigman on Finding Your CenterIn this episode of The Emergency Mind Podcast, Dr. Dan Dworkis sits down with EMS veteran and improvement science expert Mike Taigman. With a 50-year career in emergency medical services, Mike shares experiences from his early days in youth mountain rescue to navigating high-pressure si…
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Andrew George in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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The immunologist Andrew George is Professor Emeritus at Imperial College London. In addition to his immunological research, Andrew plays a leading role in developing policy around ethical conduct and regulation of research. He has held many senior positions in universities and the health service and is also a career coach. https://profiles.imperial…
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Christopher Le Brun in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Sir Christopher Le Brun PPRA is widely known as a painter, though he also works in other media. From 2011 until 2019 he was President of the Royal Academy of Arts (RA). We discuss his approach to art and the challenges of leading the RA during a time of challenge and redevelopment. https://www.christopherlebrun.co.uk…
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Quassim Cassam in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Quassim Cassam is professor of philosophy at the University of Warwick. He is well known for his work examining terrorism, political extremism, the professional values of general medical practice and the idea of epistemic vice. In this conversation we explore how these strands are interwoven within his career. https://www.quassimcassam.com…
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Peter Openshaw in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Peter Openshaw CBE is a respiratory physician and mucosal immunologist at Imperial College London, where he is Professor of Experimental Medicine at the National Heart and Lung Institute. His because a familiar voice in the media during the Covid-19 pandemic. We discuss how his clinical and research interests intertwine, and how his Quaker principl…
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EP 106: Evolving Intensive Care with Dr. Patrick Schouwenberg
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Join host Dr. Dan Dworkis on The Emergency Mind Podcast as he looks at applying knowledge under pressure and the world of elite human performance in medicine with Dr. Patrick Schouwenberg. Dr. Schouwenberg, a surgeon intensivist with a diverse background in critical care and trauma, shares his insights on improving performance under pressure. They …
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Dan Dworkis in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Dr Dan Dworkis is a board-certified emergency physician and Adjunct Professor at the Keck School of Medicine at the University of Southern California. He is Chief Medical Officer at the Mission Critical Team Institute. His book The Emergency Mind: Wiring Your Brain for Performance Under Pressure was published in 2021. In this conversation we explor…
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EP 105: The Joy of Resuscitaton with Dr. Dan Howes
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Join Dr. Dan Dworkis on the Emergency Mind Podcast as he dives deep into the world of resuscitation medicine and crisis leadership with Dr. Dan Howes, a professor of emergency and critical care medicine at Queens University. Over a discussion stemming from their recent encounter at a resuscitation conference, they explore the unique systems at King…
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Matt Bishop in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Matt Bishop is a writer, journalist, novelist and communications expert with a lifelong passion for motor sport. In this podcast we explore his insights into the worlds of Formula One racing and journalism. https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/author/mattbishop/
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EP 104: Marcin Nazaruk PhD on Learning from Normal Work
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In this episode of the Emergency Mind Podcast, host Dan Dworkis is joined by Dr. Marcin Nazaruk, an award-winning global expert in proactive learning, to explore how knowledge and principles from various industries, particularly oil and gas, can enhance safety and performance in the medical field. Dr. Nazaruk discusses the concept of 'Learning from…
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Stephen Webster in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Dr Stephen Webster is a philosopher of science and developed the internationally renowned Masters in Science Communication at Imperial College London. He stepped down from directing the Science Communication Unit in 2023 and now leads the Good Science Project at Imperial. We discuss what ‘good science’ means and explore how sitting and thinking can…
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Geoff Grandfield in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Geoff Grandfield is well known for his iconic book covers and illustrations, strongly influenced by film noir. His images, with their unconventional viewpoints and perspectives, convey a powerful sense of isolation, unease and disquiet. In addition to his work and his teaching, Geoff is exploring the legacies of primal separation in his doctoral st…
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Sheila Hayman in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Sheila Hayman is a documentary film maker who has been exploring the relationship between people and technology for over forty years. In this conversation we explore issues around sustainability, artificial intelligence and what it means to be human. https://www.sheilahayman.com
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Simon Clarke in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Simon Clarke is a consultant paediatric and neonatal surgeon and a professional actor. In this conversation we explore the similarities and differences between these apparently unrelated areas of expert practice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6JYOL-VAzo
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EP 103: Dr. Roger Kneebone on Understanding the Path to Mastery
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Dr. Roger Kneebone joins the podcast to talk about what it takes to become an expert, the inside view of walking the path to mastery, the value of working with thin materials on the verge of collapse, the links between trauma surgery and magic, and so, so much more.Oleh The Emergency Mind Project
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John McMunn in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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John McMunn fell in love with opera and performing at the age of ten. He studied at Harvard University before moving to England to become a Choral Scholar at King’s College Cambridge, then studied at the Royal College of Music Opera School. Ill health forced him to change his career direction. Now he is Chief Executive of the Academy of Ancient Mus…
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Rob Sansom in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Rob Sansom is an actor, Simulated Patient, house decorator and builder. In this conversation we explore how his work in these apparently unrelated worlds connects in unexpected ways.
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EP 102: Buffalo Bills Linebacker Terrel Bernard on Leadership on and off the Field
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Linebacker Terrel Bernard talks about critical decision making at the line of scrimmage, learning from every repetition, what it takes to join a new team, and how to lead small groups at and away from the point of impact.Oleh The Emergency Mind Project
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Siobhan Davies in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Dame Siobhan (Sue) Davies has had a long career in contemporary dance. Initially at the London Contemporary Dance Theatre, Sue established Siobhan Davies Dance Company in 1988. Her studio - Siobhan Davies Studios - was designed by Sarah Wigglesworth within the shell of a Victorian school building in Southwark. Now Siobhan makes films, including ‘Al…
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EP 101: Chris Baugh, MD MBA, on Building Multidisciplinary Code Teams
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Dr. Chris Baugh talks about the design, implementation, execution, and tuning of multidisciplinary code teams in large hospital environments.Oleh The Emergency Mind Project
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David Spiegelhalter in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Professor Sir David Spiegelhalter was Winton Professor of the Public Understanding of Risk at the University of Cambridge until his recent retirement. A gifted broadcaster and communicator, David became familiar to many through his media discussions around statistics and risk during the Covid-19 pandemic. https://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~david/…
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Lilli Cooper in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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After completing her training in plastic surgery and as a professional coach, Lilli Cooper has expanded her interests to address issues around performance, anxiety and wellness through coaching and specialised support. In this conversation we explore how she focuses on helping surgeons optimise their performance. www.lillicooper.co.uk…
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EP 99: Barb Thompson, PhD, on Setting the Stage for Success
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Psychologist and expert in selection and assessment Dr. Barb Thompson joins the podcast to talk about leadership development, the role of culture in elite performance, controlling the controllables, and much more.Oleh The Emergency Mind Project
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Richard Horton in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Dr Richard Horton is the Editor-in-Chief of The Lancet. In this conversation he describes the challenges and excitement of being at the helm of one of the world’s leading medical journals and his approach to controversy and political involvement. We also discuss his personal experience of advanced cancer and its impact on his thinking and approach.…
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Aristeidis Anagnostou in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Aris has been fascinated by the human body for as long as he can remember. Early on he discovered a special aptitude for treating ill and injured people through touch, broadening his skills during his degree studies as a sports therapist. In this conversation we discuss our different experiences of gaining and applying anatomical knowledge, and our…
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EP 98: Matt Lavoie PA-C on Fighting with What you Have
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Matt Lavoie, critical care physician assistant, educator, and military medical instructor on building training systems that get the basics right in extreme pressure.Oleh The Emergency Mind Project
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Helen Anahita Wilson in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Helen Anahita Wilson trained as a pianist and spent years performing contemporary compositions in the UK. She then became immersed in the complex rhythmical structures of Indian music. In 2019 she was about to travel to India at the start of her PhD when she was diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer. She underwent surgery, chemotherapy, radiother…
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EP 97: Gareth Lock on Counter-Errorism
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Gareth Lock, MSc, is a diver, an educator, and an expert in Human Factors and Non-Technical Skills. In this episode, we talk though the power of storytelling for learning, building a culture that grows from near misses and learns from mistakes and error, harnessing human and organizational potential, and so much more.…
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Robert Lindsey in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Robert Lindsey studied English Literature at Oxford University, where he completed PhD in Shakespeare studies and co-edited the Penguin edition of Christopher Marlowe’s plays. He then changed direction and trained as a barrister. Since then he has practised in the criminal courts. In this conversation we discuss Bob’s unconventional career path and…
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Gareth Mitchell in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Gareth Mitchell lectures in science communication at Imperial College London. For many years he presented the weekly technology programme Digital Planet on the BBC World Service. He also presents occasionally on BBC Radio 4’s Inside Science. We explore parallels between Gareth’s work as a presenter and podcaster and my own experience as a clinician…
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EP 96: SWAT Commander Kevin Cyr LL.M. on Operating with Asymmetric Risk
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Kevin Cyr, LL.M., is a SWAT Commander with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, a deep thinker about managing risk in complex, rapidly adaptive environments, and an overall epic individual. In this episode, Kevin talks about leading a SWAT team operating in high-threat environments, the absolute value of making a problem boring, critical factors in d…
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Lord Robert Salisbury in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, 7th Marquess of Salisbury, has had a long career as a Conservative politician. He represented South Dorset in the House of Commons from 1979-1987. He was a junior defence minister for two years before being appointed to the House of Lords as Lord Cranborne after the 1992 general election. In the 1990s he was Leader of the Hou…
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Andrew Grundon in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Andrew Grundon is an artist who draws, paints and sculpts. He designs and paints traditional pub signs, makes marionettes and is writing and illustrating a novel. In this podcast we discuss the remarkable range of skills which he has gained over many decades and explore how he continues to defy conventional categories and push the boundaries of his…
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Jonathon Tomlinson in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Dr Jonathon Tomlinson has been a full-time GP in East London since 2001. He is fascinated by the challenges subtleties of the clinical consultation. He writes about patient clinical advocacy and the social determinants of health and has an MA in Human Values and Contemporary Global Ethics. In this conversation we discuss the nature of general pract…
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EP 95: Dr. Seth Hawkins on Wilderness EMS, Experiential Learning, & Walking the Walk
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Dr. Seth Collings Hawkins is an anthropologist, writer, and physician, double boarded in emergency medicine and EMS and specializing in wilderness medical care. He is an associate professor of emergency medicine at Wake Forest University and the founder of the Carolina Wilderness EMS Externship, a program we will be talking about today. He’s also t…
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Abigail Bainbridge in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Abigail Bainbridge is a book conservator and Director of Bainbridge Conservation. She teaches on many degree programmes, including at West Dean College, Camberwell College of Art and City & Guilds of London Art School. She sits on the Royal Society of Chemistry’s Heritage Science Expert Working Group and is the editor of Conservation of Books, whic…
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EP 94: Will Greenberg (Buffalo Bills) on Compounding Tension and Relaxation
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Will Greenberg is a strength and conditioning/performance development coach, currently with the Buffalo Bills. Over the last 15 years, through diverse experiences in various sports, he has gained expertise in cultivating environments that allow athletes and teams to thrive.In this awesome conversation, we talk about the power of compounding good tr…
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Allan Hamilton in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Allan Hamilton holds four professorships at the University of Arizona College of Medicine - in neurosurgery, radiation oncology, psychology and electrical engineering & computing. His book The Scalpel and the Soul, based on over two decades as a neurosurgeon, explores clinical practice from unconventional perspectives. He is an expert horse whisper…
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Ishminder Mangat in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Dr Ishminder Mangat is a junior doctor based in Bristol. She is fascinated by exploring how clinical medicine and the arts can enrich and enlighten one another. Her own podcasts explore a range of topics, including the power of narrative in breast cancer, death and dying, and motherhood anxiety. Ishminder is the lead organiser and creator of Bodies…
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EP 93: Dr. Jen Wagner on Empowering Women to Prosper and Lead
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Dr. Jen Wager is a pediatric anesthesiologist, an expert on human performance, and the founder and CEO of PROSPER, a team devoted to wholistic women's performance and helping women thrive. In this episode, we get into women's performance, how organizations can attract, develop, and retain high performing women, how to build environments that help w…
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Desiree Botana Machado in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Desiree Botana Machado is a skilled prosector, preparing dissections of human cadavers for teaching medical students and surgeons. We discuss how her work combines extraordinary levels of craftsmanship and skill with deep anatomical knowledge and the ability to engage with learners across a wide range of knowledge and experience.…
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EP 92: Kim "KC" Campbell on Flying in the Face of Fear
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Kim “KC” Campbell is a retired Colonel, serving in the Air Force for 24 years as a fighter pilot, a senior leader, and the Director of the Center for Character & Leadership Development at the Air Force Academy. She is the author of Flying in the Face of Fear: A Fighter Pilot’s Lessons on Leading with Courage. In this episode, we talk about training…
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James Eastaway in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Dr James Eastaway trained as a doctor while developing his career as a leading Baroque oboeist and working in experimental theatre. As a musician he plays in some of the UK and Europe’s leading ensembles, while as a doctor he is a GP in a South London training practice. We discuss the excitements and challenges of keeping these multiple strands in …
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EP 91: Glenn Fox, PhD, on Gratitude and Performance
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Dr. Glenn Fox on the neuroscience of emotion, feeling, and decision making, the power of gratitude to transform performance, and much more.Oleh The Emergency Mind Project
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Joz Norris in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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Joz Norris is an award-winning writer, actor and comedian. We explore Joz’s approach to his work in the world of comedy, and discuss how his absurdist approach has opened new directions. We examine parallels between our professional lives and discuss the transitions we have both experienced in our careers. https://www.joznorris.co.uk…
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EP 90: Dan Dworkis MD PhD on Excellence in Crisis
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Excellence doesn't happen by accident. Dr. Dan Dworkis on searching for and building excellence in crisis.Oleh The Emergency Mind Project
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Anna Detari in conversation with Roger Kneebone
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The Hungarian musician Anna Detari studied the flute at the Liszt Institute in Budapest and developed a passion for performing contemporary compositions before her career was disrupted by Musician’s Focal Dystonia - a mysterious condition which she went on to research and which formed the basis of her doctorate. Although Anna has recovered her abil…
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