From Burnout to Breakthrough: Dave Garrison on the Science of Motivation (Part 2)

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We’re back with Part 2 of our must-listen conversation with Dave Garrison, leadership strategist and veteran CEO, on what it really takes to unlock performance through engagement.

In this episode, we go deeper into the psychological drivers of motivation — autonomy, mastery, and purpose — and explore how to stop employee churn, combat burnout, and lead with clarity (not just charisma). Plus: how to rethink your approach to hiring and the controversial take on using AI in leadership decisions.

Stick around for a surprise recap guest who brings it all home. 💥

🕒 Time-Stamps:
00:12 – Autonomy, Mastery, Purpose
04:48 – How to Stop Churn
07:10 – Laying the Hammer Down
08:00 – Burnout
14:50 – Are You Using AI Wrong?
16:27 – Energy Level
17:40 – Coach Katherine Mayne's Take
19:57 – Hire for Aptitude, Fire for Attitude
22:19 – The Recap

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📘 Explore his book, Buy-In

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