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Refactored #103: “Scared? Lazy? Stupid?”

On this episode of Refactored…

Chris really is reporting live from the brink of sanity this week. Should we order a wellness call or just take away his vim?
Frank makes some good points about BS-o-meter calibration.
The guys complain about finding the delicate balance of under- vs over-reacting as a leader.
Is your org chart upside down? The guys debate the usefulness of inverting the graphic.
Layoffs.fyi is great. Also, it’s not the whole story. (some extra context)
Is Apple actually a bank now? Not really - but Silicon Valley has been financialized possibly beyond the point of salvation, according to Chris.
… and much more!

Don’t be shy! Reach out at feedback@refactored.work.

Visit https://refactored.work/ for the full archive, show notes, and more. Hosted by Chris Tonkinson and Frank Koehl.

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Refactored #103: “Scared? Lazy? Stupid?”

On this episode of Refactored…

Chris really is reporting live from the brink of sanity this week. Should we order a wellness call or just take away his vim?
Frank makes some good points about BS-o-meter calibration.
The guys complain about finding the delicate balance of under- vs over-reacting as a leader.
Is your org chart upside down? The guys debate the usefulness of inverting the graphic.
Layoffs.fyi is great. Also, it’s not the whole story. (some extra context)
Is Apple actually a bank now? Not really - but Silicon Valley has been financialized possibly beyond the point of salvation, according to Chris.
… and much more!

Don’t be shy! Reach out at feedback@refactored.work.

Visit https://refactored.work/ for the full archive, show notes, and more. Hosted by Chris Tonkinson and Frank Koehl.

Direct link to RSS feed

153 episod

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