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The Evergetinos: Book Two - Hypothesis XV, Part III

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The fathers often draw us along this mysterious path, the narrow path, that leads to the kingdom. They lead us, as it were, “where angels fear to tread.” They show us in an unvarnished fashion how the path to Godly love and virtue passes through affliction.

Yet, even that is too simplistic. It is the suffering heart, the heart crushed by prayer and the desire for God, that gives birth to virtue. One cannot have God sorrow and suffering if he does not first cherish the causes of these.

It is here that we must pray for the illumination that comes through faith. For we are told fear of God and the reproof of one’s conscience give birth to this godly sorrow. Abstinence and vigil keep company with a suffering heart and strengthen it to remain upon this path. Gluttony in all of its forms gives rise to the bad blood of the passions, and drives out the influx of the Spirit.

Thus, while we are young, we must learn to delight in what comes from the labor of compunction. If we do not, we will simply provoke confusion and callousness in the heart. We will be frustrated and lose our desire for God. Knowledge of God and the things of God do not reside in the hedonist; and the one who loves his body will not acquire the grace of God.

There is a plethora of ways that we idolize the body and its needs. It is for this reason that we are given multiple stories of elders crushing the demons by their asceticism. They starve the demons by not allowing them to feed upon the disordered and the unholy desires that often dwell within our hearts. If a man spends his life in fasting, then his adversaries, the passions and the demons flee, enfeebled, from his soul.

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Text of chat during the group:

00:37:43 Kate : I think sometimes we can hesitate in the ascetical life due to an exaggerated fear of suffering. I know I have felt this myself. But when we begin to engage in ascetical practices there is a sweetness and joy and peace in making our way towards God. It is not a sensible sweetness, but a deep interior sweetness. 00:38:51 Adam Paige: At church and Catholic home meetings, I'm constantly being offered food.. it's not always clear whether to accept hospitality or decline sometimes large amounts of food 00:44:25 Fr Marty, AZ, 480-292-3381: Besides wine, it sounds like that satiating our longing for God or restlessness to do God's will by overdoing anything: food, lust, entertainment, news, even complaining, can numb our sensitivity to not just the Holy Spirit's guidance, but even our ability to just be at rest with life we've been given and be content during prayer. 00:44:45 Adam Paige: Reacted to "Besides wine, it sou..." with ❤️‍🔥 00:48:56 Forrest Cavalier: καὶ αὐτὸς. ποὺ ἀγαπᾷ τὸ σῶπα του 00:49:06 Forrest Cavalier: Agape love 00:53:21 Forrest Cavalier: It is the greek original of "he who loves his own body" 00:55:36 Anthony: I went to Italy and got some prayer cards from Naples and Calabria. Some of them do not end prayer in "Amen" but "Cosi sià," which I take to mean "As He (the Lord) wills." 01:02:07 Fr Marty, AZ, 480-292-3381: Just as God wants us well fed in those things that keep us healthy, could it be that the devils have the strategy to starve us spiritually by glutting our appetites, and keep us from feeding on the Word of God or Body of Christ. It seems at times I've been starving on a full stomach. That even in great pleasure, I felt no love or joy.. 01:05:52 Jennifer Ahearn: There is a term I just learned ‘simping’, in romantic relationships a male who is over attentive and submissive to a woman’s desire. Only the blessings and God’s good pleasure to see his children fulfilled really satisfy the soul and strengthen the Sacrament. 01:06:14 Anthony: I'm preparing to move, and trying to follow St Charbel's advice, cutting out of my life books that I bought to be a somebody, a scholar, but really are so much extra weight - other than the one "jar" I should carry or am called to carry in life, for my vocation. 01:08:44 Ambrose Little, OP: Jim Gaffigan 01:08:51 Nypaver Clan: Jim Gaffigan? 01:09:12 Nypaver Clan: Reacted to "Jim Gaffigan" with 👍🏼 01:14:08 Rebecca Thérèse: Thank you 🙂Happy birthday🎂 01:14:14 Anthony: Auguri, Padre! 01:14:23 Adam Paige: Ad multos annos ! 01:14:23 Steve Yu: Happy Birthday, Father! 01:14:24 Nypaver Clan: Birthday blessings 01:15:03 Andrew Adams: Thank you, Father! Happy Birthday! 01:15:23 Troy Amaro: Thank You Father. Happy Birthday.

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The fathers often draw us along this mysterious path, the narrow path, that leads to the kingdom. They lead us, as it were, “where angels fear to tread.” They show us in an unvarnished fashion how the path to Godly love and virtue passes through affliction.

Yet, even that is too simplistic. It is the suffering heart, the heart crushed by prayer and the desire for God, that gives birth to virtue. One cannot have God sorrow and suffering if he does not first cherish the causes of these.

It is here that we must pray for the illumination that comes through faith. For we are told fear of God and the reproof of one’s conscience give birth to this godly sorrow. Abstinence and vigil keep company with a suffering heart and strengthen it to remain upon this path. Gluttony in all of its forms gives rise to the bad blood of the passions, and drives out the influx of the Spirit.

Thus, while we are young, we must learn to delight in what comes from the labor of compunction. If we do not, we will simply provoke confusion and callousness in the heart. We will be frustrated and lose our desire for God. Knowledge of God and the things of God do not reside in the hedonist; and the one who loves his body will not acquire the grace of God.

There is a plethora of ways that we idolize the body and its needs. It is for this reason that we are given multiple stories of elders crushing the demons by their asceticism. They starve the demons by not allowing them to feed upon the disordered and the unholy desires that often dwell within our hearts. If a man spends his life in fasting, then his adversaries, the passions and the demons flee, enfeebled, from his soul.

---

Text of chat during the group:

00:37:43 Kate : I think sometimes we can hesitate in the ascetical life due to an exaggerated fear of suffering. I know I have felt this myself. But when we begin to engage in ascetical practices there is a sweetness and joy and peace in making our way towards God. It is not a sensible sweetness, but a deep interior sweetness. 00:38:51 Adam Paige: At church and Catholic home meetings, I'm constantly being offered food.. it's not always clear whether to accept hospitality or decline sometimes large amounts of food 00:44:25 Fr Marty, AZ, 480-292-3381: Besides wine, it sounds like that satiating our longing for God or restlessness to do God's will by overdoing anything: food, lust, entertainment, news, even complaining, can numb our sensitivity to not just the Holy Spirit's guidance, but even our ability to just be at rest with life we've been given and be content during prayer. 00:44:45 Adam Paige: Reacted to "Besides wine, it sou..." with ❤️‍🔥 00:48:56 Forrest Cavalier: καὶ αὐτὸς. ποὺ ἀγαπᾷ τὸ σῶπα του 00:49:06 Forrest Cavalier: Agape love 00:53:21 Forrest Cavalier: It is the greek original of "he who loves his own body" 00:55:36 Anthony: I went to Italy and got some prayer cards from Naples and Calabria. Some of them do not end prayer in "Amen" but "Cosi sià," which I take to mean "As He (the Lord) wills." 01:02:07 Fr Marty, AZ, 480-292-3381: Just as God wants us well fed in those things that keep us healthy, could it be that the devils have the strategy to starve us spiritually by glutting our appetites, and keep us from feeding on the Word of God or Body of Christ. It seems at times I've been starving on a full stomach. That even in great pleasure, I felt no love or joy.. 01:05:52 Jennifer Ahearn: There is a term I just learned ‘simping’, in romantic relationships a male who is over attentive and submissive to a woman’s desire. Only the blessings and God’s good pleasure to see his children fulfilled really satisfy the soul and strengthen the Sacrament. 01:06:14 Anthony: I'm preparing to move, and trying to follow St Charbel's advice, cutting out of my life books that I bought to be a somebody, a scholar, but really are so much extra weight - other than the one "jar" I should carry or am called to carry in life, for my vocation. 01:08:44 Ambrose Little, OP: Jim Gaffigan 01:08:51 Nypaver Clan: Jim Gaffigan? 01:09:12 Nypaver Clan: Reacted to "Jim Gaffigan" with 👍🏼 01:14:08 Rebecca Thérèse: Thank you 🙂Happy birthday🎂 01:14:14 Anthony: Auguri, Padre! 01:14:23 Adam Paige: Ad multos annos ! 01:14:23 Steve Yu: Happy Birthday, Father! 01:14:24 Nypaver Clan: Birthday blessings 01:15:03 Andrew Adams: Thank you, Father! Happy Birthday! 01:15:23 Troy Amaro: Thank You Father. Happy Birthday.

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