Reports of Node's death are greatly exaggerated

JS Party: JavaScript, CSS, Web Development

Amal, KBall & Chris convene a “semi-emergency” pod to discuss the recent (deserved) hype over Bun and what it all means for Node’s community, maintainers & users.

They’re joined by Node Technical Steering Committee members Matteo Collina & James Snell who are here to dispel Bun antagonism rumors, discuss the pros & cons of each runtime, explain how Node continues to thrive & even announce a VERY big upcoming feature!

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Featuring:

• Matteo Collina – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, Website
• James Snell – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, Website
• Amal Hussein – Twitter, GitHub
• Kevin Ball – Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn, Website
• Christopher Hiller – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, Website

Show Notes:

• Matteo’s tweet on Jarred Summer’s obsession with performance optimizations
• Bun’s claim to being a “drop in-replacement for Node.js”
• Platformatic 1.0 release annoucement
• AWS lambda quatas
• Node TODO - your guide to getting started with Node.js Core development
• Node.js’s new built-in test runner
• Node.js project governance
• Matteos recent newsletter which Amal magically connected with in the future - “My thoughts on Bun and other Adventures”
• fastify - “Fast and low overhead web framework, for Node.js”
• OpenJS foundation
• Soon to be released PR for adding the new WebSocket lib to Node Core
• Node.js supported binaries
• Node.js github issue #19308 “Adding Websocket support to core” which is 5+ years old and coincidentally closed on the day this podcast was released

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1. It's party time, y'all (00:00:00)

https://jsparty.fm/300

2. Sponsor: Convex (00:00:39)

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3. SEMI-EMERGENCY POD (00:03:15)

4. Welcoming Matteo & James (00:04:23)

5. How Node is structured (00:09:29)

6. Manufactured controversy (00:13:47)

7. Hints of Node's success (00:20:10)

8. diff node bun (00:26:22)

9. Paying for performance (00:31:54)

10. On scale and bottlenecks (00:40:20)

11. Sponsor: Appwrite (00:45:26)

https://appwrite.io

12. Bun for tests & CI? (00:48:09)

13. Bun performance trade-offs (00:50:37)

14. Security features & compromise (00:54:33)

15. Node's legacy patina (00:56:01)

16. What breaking Node looks like (01:03:39)

17. Zig talk (01:05:46)

18. Node maintainers (01:10:00)

19. Amal's announcement (01:14:12)

20. The money question (01:17:47)

21. Node needs to learn what people want (01:22:37)

22. Announcement! Announcement! (01:26:18)

23. Listener Q: Eric Clemmons (01:29:18)

24. Listener Q: Kyle Beard (01:34:54)

25. Connecting with Matteo & James (01:37:55)

26. Wrapping up (01:39:01)

27. Next up on the pod (01:39:31)

https://jsparty.fm/300