Season 11, Episode 45: Calling All Wingnuts, The West Wing's Melissa Fitzgerald & Mary McCormack talk "What's Next"...

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In this special bonus segment, I’m thrilled to be joined by two incredible actors, ladies, and stars of The West Wing, Melissa Fitzgerald and Mary McCormack.

As a HUGE fan of The West Wing, we affectionately referred to as Wingnuts, I’m excited to take the show off the course with these wonderful ladies. Earlier this year, I had the pleasure of hosting Melissa Fitzgerald, who portrayed Carole Fitzpatrick. During that episode, she gave us a teaser about a behind-the-scenes book she was co-writing with fellow cast member Mary McCormack, who played Deputy National Security Advisor Kate Harper. That book, titled What's Next: A Backstage Pass to The West Wing, has since been released and has become a New York Times Bestseller.

In our conversation, you’ll hear the fascinating story of how the book was conceived over cake and drinks at Alison Janney’s house. We also discuss the show’s enduring legacy 25 years later, its call to service, the powerful impact of the “In Excelsis Deo” episode, and the key episodes they chose to highlight. Melissa and Mary also share what it was like to work with Aaron Sorkin, the culture Martin Sheen established from day one, the loss of John Spencer, and the epic prank wars between Bradley Whitford and Josh Malina. Bradley even reflects on how, no matter what else they achieve in their careers, The West Wing will always be the first line in their obituaries.

I highly recommend picking up this beautifully written book—it’s a fantastic read and is available wherever books are sold.