The Bird & The Bear - Session 81 - "The Birdy South: Two Piece"

Dimes In The Dozen

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On this session of The Bird and The Bear … Our hosts, Sammy Ray and Daryl Lazer, continue their discussion about the Deep South with their reactions to the next two installments in a YouTube documentary series on the Deep South by Peter Santenello, “Inside Inner-City America - Breaking Hood Mindset” and “Exploring Wealthy Alabama” … Let’s sort through it together!

(0:00) - The session opens with some elite snack picks from our hosts before they introduce the first YouTube documentary they’ll be discussing, “Inside Inner-City America - Breaking Hood Mindset,” by Peter Santenello - “If you were raised right, you would realize that being an American means that you should you care about your f**king fellow man … So yeah, it is your responsibility to care about this community"

(16:10) - A man named Tommy shows Peter Santenello around Jacksonville, Mississippi and as they walk through Tommy’s old neighborhood Peter compares crime in Jacksonville to crime in Bangladesh - “His tiny statistic that he used to prop up an entire conversation … Is only good in that narrow window”

(24:32) - Peter and Tommy make their way to a community garden and Tommy has a bit of a back-and-forth with an old man at the garden - “There’s no one at the top … They can’t elect anyone who’s gonna lead the charge … To be a communal leader … To, you know, rally the people into change … Like, Tommy is a good example of someone who can help but you need bigger figures than Tommy”

(33:23) - Sammy notices that Peter keeps coming back to the argument that kids need their fathers if they want a chance at being successful - “No guarantee that the next generations of fathers is going to step up, is going to fix the problems of today … You can have a crystal ball and go, ‘Look, all the fathers in the future are gonna be there’ … Great, what do we right now?”

(44:51) - Tommy takes Peter to his alma mater, Tougaloo College, and it sparks a short conversation between our hosts about traditional colleges versus HBCUs (Historically Black Colleges and Universities) - “Where as, if your black in America … You have a sturdy vein of understanding, and culture, and experience … You have that thread that immediately connects you”

(55:26) - The first documentary wraps up with Tommy taking Peter to a local soul food restaurant where they spoke with more of the locals before driving through one of the nicer neighborhoods in Jacksonville - “The people of Jacksonville have made the most out of what they have but they clearly deserve a chance to have more”

(1:05:08) - Our hosts introduce the second YouTube documentary they’ll be discussing, “Exploring Wealthy Alabama,” by Peter Santenello - “These motherf**kers rebuilt a whole 800 square-foot house and it’s gonna be gone in three years”

(1:10:51) - A man named Doug shows Peter Santenello around Fairhope, Alabama and they slowly make their way through the coastal town as Doug explains some of it’s history - “No, you f**king haven’t … You live in a white isolated bubble in southern f**king Alabama … Where rich people rebuild there piers, regularly, and the only black guy in town was a bartender … that DIED!”

(1:16:22) - Daryl points out another problem with Peter Santenello’s documentaries and the hosts go on to debate Doug’s past life - “Why can’t the philosophy of this place propagate outside of this place? Why can’t this be all of Alabama?”

(1:22:45) - The second documentary wraps up with Doug taking Peter to the beautiful home of his friend Michelle where they have a conversation about life in Fairhope - “Didn’t see the Chinese guy and the black guy is dead”