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Flight of the Monarchs: Jaime Rojo on Beauty and Conservation 31:01

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National Geographic photographer and conservationist Jaime Rojo has spent decades capturing the beauty and fragility of the monarch butterfly. Their epic migration is one of nature’s most breathtaking spectacles, but their survival is under threat. In this episode, Jaime shares how his passion for photography and conservation led him to document the monarchs’ journey. He and host Brian Lowery discuss the deeper story behind his award-winning images, one about resilience, connection, and the urgent need to protect our natural world. See Jaime's story on the monarch butterflies at his website: rojovisuals.com , and follow Brian Lowery at knowwhatyousee.com .…

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Chaos Magick News offers a glimpse into current events through the lense of Occultism and a look at greater occulture both online and offline. Occasionally insightful and always comedic CMN is the dose of self awareness and humor to cure your Magus-itis or bring back your inspiration for the Magickal worldview.

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Ep.48: Chinese Maoist News 2:00:15

11 days ago2:00:15

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This week, Chaos Magick News is taken over by the glorious People's Republic of China, showing our true colors(Red). And it's not just us, but Local and Garry as well! The boys have a conversation about Palm reading and the line between grift and magic in an opening segment inspired by Kennedy's trip to Atlantic City. We then move on to the news where EVERYTHING happened apparently; Google changing deportation articles, Elon taking over government agencies, funding freezes, Aga Khan's death, and the immortal question, "Was Elvis a telepathic demigod who could heal the sick?" And if that wasn't enough for you, we decide to do a Communist Chinese version of "Fringe or Cringe", the segment where we talk about cults and decide if they are Fringe(strange but not dangerously insane) or Cringe(out of their mind or evil). This includes WAY too many people who said they were Jesus Chris, the infamous Falun Gong of Shen Yun fame, and, oddly enough, Mangos. All that and so much more, so join us before we are censored by the PRC! Our linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknewsOur Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNewsSite : https://chaosmagicknews.com Tiktok : https://www.tiktok.com/@chaosmagicknews Discord: https://discord.com/invite/PBCVUJFuWC?fbclid=PAAaYtWiIy5WJ06sNRTr3fKFJ2dFoLFv1s1Xo6BhpmBF_UVAr2Giy8YJXejpM Insta : https://www.instagram.com/chaosmagicknews/?__coig_restricted=1Twitter : https://twitter.com/chaosmagicknews FB : https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086321618969&mibextid=ZbWKwL Thread : https://www.threads.net/@chaosmagicknews…

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Ep.47: Magick Weapons(in the discord) 2:06:44

5 weeks ago2:06:44

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The Wand, Sword, Cup and Pentacle, taking This week, we're back to CMN CLASSIC! Kennedy and Cohost take on a "scientific" interpretation of the mysterious SATOR square from where all good scientific theories are proven; Tiktok. Then, onto the news; Trump "saves" Tiktok, tries to get rid of immigrants, Biden pardons Marcus Garvey(ascended master), the Theosophical Society burning to the ground with LA and Land mines showing up in IKEA. After that, we're onto the main attraction, a brief look at the big four Magickal Weapons,about the history, Tarot, and the development of them from the Golden Dawn and Crowley through Peter Carroll and Grant Morrison. So join us, before we're banned too! Our linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknewsOur Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNewsSite : https://chaosmagicknews.com Tiktok : https://www.tiktok.com/@chaosmagicknews Discord: https://discord.com/invite/PBCVUJFuWC?fbclid=PAAaYtWiIy5WJ06sNRTr3fKFJ2dFoLFv1s1Xo6BhpmBF_UVAr2Giy8YJXejpM Insta : https://www.instagram.com/chaosmagicknews/?__coig_restricted=1Twitter : https://twitter.com/chaosmagicknews FB : https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086321618969&mibextid=ZbWKwL Thread : https://www.threads.net/@chaosmagicknews…

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Bonus Ep.: Magick without Tears Ch.1 "What is magick?" 1:28:58

7 weeks ago1:28:58

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Hey hey hey, today we got a special treat for you all; Originally recorded for patreon, the boys decided to read through the infamous Aleister Crowley's Magick without Tears opening chapter which asks the question, "What is magick?" Join us as we go through some of most influential and developed ideas that the Western occult tradition has given us and try to unravel what we think you may find fascinating or useful. Wwe also make fun of Crowley for being a pretentious English aristocrat talking about golf.(Nerd). Whether you're new to magick(or our show) or an experienced practitioner, you can find something useful to ponder here, or at least something to laugh at. So check it out, or you won't be conforming to the postulate! Our linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknews Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNews Site: https://chaosmagicknews.com Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chaosmagicknews YouTube: https://youtube.com/@ChaosMagickNews?feature=shared Discord: https://discord.com/invite/PBCVUJFuWC?fbclid=PAAaYtWiIy5WJ06sNRTr3fKFJ2dFoLFv1s1Xo6BhpmBF_UVAr2Giy8YJXejpM Insta: https://www.instagram.com/chaosmagicknews/?__coig_restricted=1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/chaosmagicknews FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086321618969&mibextid=ZbWKwL Thread: https://www.threads.net/@chaosmagicknews…

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Ep.46: Bimbo Dragon Fighting Society 2:40:49

10 weeks ago2:40:49

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This week we're joined by our favorite writer/martial artist, T.S. Brookehouse returns! We all decide that we're going full bimbo this week, so we stop thinking entirely so we roll into a discussion of Intercessory entities like Angels, Saints and Spirits that some how leads us into Cohost's saga with the Cat Distribution Network and if demons are autism coded. After that, we go over the shooting of the United Healthcare CEO, Biden pardoning his son, and South Korea's president declaring Marital Law only to have the opposition jump barricades to stop him. Finally, we reveal the ancient wisdom of the East, as made up by mostly white guys and conmen to get your money: We have a fun romp through Martial artists claiming to have magic powers, such a George Dillman who can knock you out with his chi powers as long as you don't move your toes, and the Infamous Count Dante, the self proclaimed Most Dangerous Man Who ever Lived, student of Michael Bertiaux, and hairdresser. All this and, cats cats cats and more damn cats, oh god why are there so many cats! So join us, or feel the poisoned hand of the DIM MAK! Our linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknews Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNews Site: https://chaosmagicknews.com Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chaosmagicknews YouTube: https://youtube.com/@ChaosMagickNews?feature=shared Discord: https://discord.com/invite/PBCVUJFuWC?fbclid=PAAaYtWiIy5WJ06sNRTr3fKFJ2dFoLFv1s1Xo6BhpmBF_UVAr2Giy8YJXejpM Insta: https://www.instagram.com/chaosmagicknews/?__coig_restricted=1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/chaosmagicknews FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086321618969&mibextid=ZbWKwL Thread: https://www.threads.net/@chaosmagicknews…

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Ep.45: Coping MAGA News 2:05:06

14 weeks ago2:05:06

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Given "the situation", everyone's kind of blah and down, so CMN decided to give yall the yucks you deserve; this week, we talk tge discourse aroundsex magick and what place it has in an world where sex is increasingly demystified. After that, we talk the news; escaped monkeys, the 4B movement, the end of the Boeing strike, and definitely not some sort of catastrophic election failure. After that, for the bit, we got AI to make us a bunch of dumb magic improv games that Cohost is convinced will be a disaster(it is). All that and more, so join us, or we'll never stop talking about it! Our linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknews Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNews Site: https://chaosmagicknews.com Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chaosmagicknews YouTube: https://youtube.com/@ChaosMagickNews?feature=shared Discord: https://discord.com/invite/PBCVUJFuWC?fbclid=PAAaYtWiIy5WJ06sNRTr3fKFJ2dFoLFv1s1Xo6BhpmBF_UVAr2Giy8YJXejpM Insta: https://www.instagram.com/chaosmagicknews/?__coig_restricted=1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/chaosmagicknews FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086321618969&mibextid=ZbWKwL Thread: https://www.threads.net/@chaosmagicknews…

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Ep.44: Call of Duty Spiritual Warfare 2:03:55

17 weeks ago2:03:55

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This week, the boys are joined by our friend Coco to talk about all things spooky. We start with servitors, discuss some general theory behind them and muse on their relation to psychological complexes and draining your energy. After that, it's time for Banish with Laughter, where we marvel at the horrors of a "Nightmare Catcher"(It's a Dream Catcher with Goetia stuff all over). Then we take a stroll through the news; Grasshoppers getting released at anti-Trans events, North Korea allegedly fighting in Ukraine, yet another mechanical failure for Boeing, a woman "casting spells" and eating her mother, and the synchronistic connection of the Insane Clown Posse endorsing Kamala Harris. Finally, we round out the show by returning to our roots; reading a goofy article by an idiot, this time on how to save yourself from the evil occult forces you let into your life when you do things like.... yoga. All that and more, so join us, or lose the battle for your very soul! Our linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknews Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNews Site: https://chaosmagicknews.com Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chaosmagicknews YouTube: https://youtube.com/@ChaosMagickNews?feature=shared Discord: https://discord.com/invite/PBCVUJFuWC?fbclid=PAAaYtWiIy5WJ06sNRTr3fKFJ2dFoLFv1s1Xo6BhpmBF_UVAr2Giy8YJXejpM Insta: https://www.instagram.com/chaosmagicknews/?__coig_restricted=1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/chaosmagicknews FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086321618969&mibextid=ZbWKwL Thread: https://www.threads.net/@chaosmagicknews…

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CMN Round Table: The Moon and Serpent Bumper Book of Magic by Alan Moore and Steve Moore 1:39:30

17 weeks ago1:39:30

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The Moon and Serpent Bumper Book of Magic by Alan Moore and Steve Moore is one of the most anticipated occult works of the last two decades. The CMN boys sat down with three of our pals to discuss our first impressions of the book, a bit of the background, Alan and Steve's unique ideas on creativity, "idea space" and magic, and degenerate into terrible British accents! It's a grand time, so check it out! Our linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknews Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNews Site: https://chaosmagicknews.com Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chaosmagicknews YouTube: https://youtube.com/@ChaosMagickNews?feature=shared Discord: https://discord.com/invite/PBCVUJFuWC?fbclid=PAAaYtWiIy5WJ06sNRTr3fKFJ2dFoLFv1s1Xo6BhpmBF_UVAr2Giy8YJXejpM Insta: https://www.instagram.com/chaosmagicknews/?__coig_restricted=1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/chaosmagicknews FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086321618969&mibextid=ZbWKwL Thread: https://www.threads.net/@chaosmagicknews…

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Ep.43: Chromosome Empowerment 2:35:38

19 weeks ago2:35:38

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In this weeks episode, the boys discuss if in the days of the internet, where esoteric secrets are a Google search away, is there a point to trying to KEEP them hidden, and the place of authorized teachers and initiation in Chaos magick. Then we question whether the internet was a good idea at all, after our "Banish with Laughter" segment has us trying to decide if we need MORE chromosomes or LESS letters in the alphabet to be proper woo woos. In the news we give the "Doesn't matter" update on the election, debate and second Trump assassination attempt, and marvel at the Jungian wisdom of RFK for dropping out of the election and cutting off the head of a whale. And to end the show, we do a broad stroke run over the history of dreaming from the Torah and Aristotle to Sigmund Freud and Carl Jung, and lay out some techniques for dream analysis from Jungian Psychologist Robert A. Johnson and lucid dreaming magic from Carlos Castaneda. And Gary definitely doesn't pee the bed, he wanted us to make sure we said that. Check it out, but only if you have your occult podcast empowerment! Our linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknews Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNews Site: https://chaosmagicknews.com Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chaosmagicknews YouTube: https://youtube.com/@ChaosMagickNews?feature=shared Discord: https://discord.com/invite/PBCVUJFuWC?fbclid=PAAaYtWiIy5WJ06sNRTr3fKFJ2dFoLFv1s1Xo6BhpmBF_UVAr2Giy8YJXejpM Insta: https://www.instagram.com/chaosmagicknews/?__coig_restricted=1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/chaosmagicknews FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086321618969&mibextid=ZbWKwL Thread: https://www.threads.net/@chaosmagicknews…

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Ep.42: Curse of the Rhatboi 2:35:04

24 weeks ago2:35:04

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The Rhatboi commeth.... this week on the show, what was going to be a discussion of "scary" moments in occult working is invaded by an eldritchian horror known only as "The Rhatboi". This is entirely Cohost's fault and there's very little we can say otherwise. Then, we turn our usual news segment into a free form discussion on "the egregoric aura" of celebrity, the power of complete amorality, and the underlying psychology of the anti trans in women's sports crowd. Taylor Swift concert threats, the election sputtering, Mr Beast hiring the same lawyer as Harvey Weinstein, Drugs in candy wrappers and signing up for Disney+ meaning Disney can kill your wife all crop up and become transformed by our semi-inebriated tangents. We round out the show by discussing curses; Why we are fascinated by them as occultists, their cultural connections, and famous curses from history. Whether it's the curse of the Pharaohs, or the curse on the whole of Hungry, we got it all! So join us, or become yet another victim..... OF THE RHATBOI! Our linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknews Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNews Site: https://chaosmagicknews.com Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chaosmagicknews YouTube: https://youtube.com/@ChaosMagickNews?feature=shared Discord: https://discord.com/invite/PBCVUJFuWC?fbclid=PAAaYtWiIy5WJ06sNRTr3fKFJ2dFoLFv1s1Xo6BhpmBF_UVAr2Giy8YJXejpM Insta: https://www.instagram.com/chaosmagicknews/?__coig_restricted=1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/chaosmagicknews FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086321618969&mibextid=ZbWKwL Thread: https://www.threads.net/@chaosmagicknews…

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Ep.41: Atlantis Name Generator 2:14:32

29 weeks ago2:14:32

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This week we try and have a nice cool down after the last special, and instead get time slips, segment derailments, and do overs, We talk about magical names, their use, theories behind the practice and if you should get them from a random name generator(SPOILERS; You definitely should). Then we roll into the news where not only do we talk about Biden's debate, astronauts stuck on the space station by Boeing and a stolen magic sword, we go into the future and talk about Kamala Harris becoming the new candidate, her VP Tom Waits... I mean Tim Walz, and RFK tossing a bear into a park! Then, we round it out by another game of "As Above, Five Below", where we guess prices of terrible occult garbage from thrift stores, including "The Encyclopedia of the Paranormal", where we "learn" about Atlantis, time slips and Haitian BBQ. All this and more, so join us, or be excom hand mouth!(Trust me, this means something). Our linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknews Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNews Site: https://chaosmagicknews.com Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chaosmagicknews YouTube: https://youtube.com/@ChaosMagickNews?feature=shared Discord: https://discord.com/invite/PBCVUJFuWC?fbclid=PAAaYtWiIy5WJ06sNRTr3fKFJ2dFoLFv1s1Xo6BhpmBF_UVAr2Giy8YJXejpM Insta: https://www.instagram.com/chaosmagicknews/?__coig_restricted=1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/chaosmagicknews FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086321618969&mibextid=ZbWKwL Thread: https://www.threads.net/@chaosmagicknews…

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Ep.40: The Michael Bertiaux Special 1:44:08

31 weeks ago1:44:08

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It's episode 40, and that means its time for another special, and this time we cover the most controversial and fascinating living occultist that we can think of. Micahel Bertiaux has been called many things; a prophet and a charlatan, a teacher and a huckster, a genius and a hack. The patriarch of the Voudon Gnostic Current, leader of countless occult organizations, and an artist and writer of a singular quality, Bertiaux has had many hats and many tales through his life, and shifting through the truth and fiction is something so impossible we don't even try. Instead, we explain the origins of Bertiaux as they have come down to us, stopping to mention when things contradict, give thoughts of his contemporaries both good and ill, and discuss our own experience with reading and working with what are arguably his two most important works; The Gnostic Voudon Workbook and Ontological Graffiti. And in between, we have a few laughs and a few insights into just what Bertiaux wanted us to learn from his works. It is easily one of the best specials we have done, and that means a lot if you know how much work and love goes into each one of these. So call up the spirits of the water as laid out in the Necronomicon physics, and join us, or become a sodomized mute! Our linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknews Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNews Site: https://chaosmagicknews.com Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chaosmagicknews YouTube: https://youtube.com/@ChaosMagickNews?feature=shared Discord: https://discord.com/invite/PBCVUJFuWC?fbclid=PAAaYtWiIy5WJ06sNRTr3fKFJ2dFoLFv1s1Xo6BhpmBF_UVAr2Giy8YJXejpM Insta: https://www.instagram.com/chaosmagicknews/?__coig_restricted=1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/chaosmagicknews FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086321618969&mibextid=ZbWKwL Thread: https://www.threads.net/@chaosmagicknews…

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Broken News Special Report: Vol.1: Actual Assassination Attempt 1:13:05

32 weeks ago1:13:05

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The first in our new "Broken News" Special Reports, the CMN boys bring on our panel of guest commentators to discuss the latest in the Trump Assassination Attempt. We break down the events, give our theories as to what allowed it to happen(Spoilers: The Police and Secret Service are super incompetent) and what we know about the killer, Thomas Matthew Crooks.That is, when Cohost isn't shouting out insane ideas about Trump's "old man skin". Join us and get put on a list along with us!(You'll be in great company). Our linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknews Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNews Site: https://chaosmagicknews.com Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chaosmagicknews YouTube: https://youtube.com/@ChaosMagickNews?feature=shared Discord: https://discord.com/invite/PBCVUJFuWC?fbclid=PAAaYtWiIy5WJ06sNRTr3fKFJ2dFoLFv1s1Xo6BhpmBF_UVAr2Giy8YJXejpM Insta: https://www.instagram.com/chaosmagicknews/?__coig_restricted=1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/chaosmagicknews FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086321618969&mibextid=ZbWKwL Threads: https://www.threads.net/@chaosmagicknews…

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Ep.39: Helicopters and Homunculi 2:30:27

39 weeks ago2:30:27

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After a rough month, them boys is back with a episode slammed with news and intrigue. After giving you a few moments of grounding to help you prepare, we slam into the weirdest news of the month; theIranian president dying in a helicopter crash(our theory? Israeli Fog Missiles), RFK's brain worm becoming the funniest thing we've heard and our new go to excuse for anyone being an idiot, YLS members sacrificing goats and whether it should be on the record in their RICO trial, and how you shouldn't be categorizing your food items(taco ain't a sandwich either way). Then we have a quick Banish with Laughter to talk about the King Charles portrait and the totally real demon hidden in it by the evil archons or whatever. Finally, in our culture piece, we take a long look at the historical degeneration of one of alchemy's most fascinating projects; the Homunculus. From Paracelsus, to Crowley, to Ai and stupid Russian youtube videos, we discuss just what making a Homunculus was trying to accomplish and why its become a modern symbol of man's arrogance at best and terrible claymation at worst. All that and more we can't even remember cause the brain worm ate part of our frontal lobes! So join us, or end up in a jar! Our linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknews Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNews…

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CMN Interviews: Vaibbahk, Butoh and Beyond with Alley Wurds 1:25:52

40 weeks ago1:25:52

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Last year, Cohost got to sit down with one of the most interesting and innovative voices in the occult world, writer, artist, musician, AI enthusiast and, of course, occultist, Alley Wurds. They talk to us about their use of AI in creating multiple occult works, specifically their ongoing Butoh Technomancy series, their use of Butoh, which originates as a form of dance theater and/or performance art in Japan, in their occult work, their constructed language "Vaibbahk" and the fascinating ideas of what they call "post-language", and their expansion upon Robert Anton Wilson and Timothy Leary's "Eight Circuit Model of Consciousness" and the Lovecraftian non-local, fractal consciousnesses that made such an innovation necessary. And if you're wondering what all of that has to do with each other, don't worry, it's all connected, and will only make you brain hurt a LITTLE bit. But don't worry, because we also talk to Alley about something much more grounded; Table Top Games! There's so much in here, I guarantee you'll find something that keeps you up thinking into the late hours, so join us, or stay stuck in your local meat body like a chump! Alley links: linktree: https://linktr.ee/elephantwords Alley's Books and Games: https://alleywurds.itch.io/ Last Unrifled Yaw(Alley's podcast): https://open.spotify.com/show/34PHNBgsXm0VscwXU0ZHZa Alley's Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@alleywurds7826 Links: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/chaosmagicknews Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ChaosMagickNews Site: https://chaosmagicknews.com Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chaosmagicknews YouTube: https://youtube.com/@ChaosMagickNews?feature=shared Discord: https://discord.com/invite/PBCVUJFuWC ? fbclid=PAAaYtWiIy5WJ06sNRTr3fKFJ2dFoLFv1s1Xo6BhpmBF_UVAr2Giy8YJXejpM Insta: https://www.instagram.com/chaosmagicknews/?__coig_restricted=1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/chaosmagicknews FB: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100086321618969&mibextid=ZbWKwL Threads: https://www.threads.net/@chaosmagicknews…

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Ep.38: Mercedes in Vaporwave 1:50:06

44 weeks ago1:50:06

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This week we don't have time for anything and things keeps going wrong, so obviously we're blaming astrology. But first, we talk about Prayer, how useful it is in chaos magick, why some chaotes don't like asking god(s) for stuff, and whether or not it's appropriate to call Aries to help you lower your cholesterol. Then we have a jammed pack news segment; Conspiracy theorist sets himself on fire outside the Trump trial, a religious nut throws a pipe bomb at the Temple of Satan and leaves a 6 page note, a security guard hags up his own art in a museum and Vietnam sentences a real estate mogul to death for bank fraud. Then we round out the episode with a quick dive into everyone's favorite excuse for sending their ex a sad and horny DM, Mercury Retrograde. Mostly, we wonder if it's popularity is because we live in an increasingly communication and technology drive age, or like.... Taylor Swift apparently? All that and more, so join us or Peter Thiel will.... make more money I guess.…

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