48. Jonathan Blake and Nils Gilman on planetary governance

Challenging Climate

Jonathan Blake is Associate Director at the Berggruen Institute, where he leads the Planetary Program. Nils Gilman is Senior Vice President at the Berggruen Institute and Deputy Editor of Noema magazine. In this episode, we discuss the ideas in their recently published book, Children of a Modest Star: Planetary Thinking for an Age of Crises. We grapple with ideas of sovereignty, planetary governance and subsidiarity.
Links:

• Jonathan Blake’s profile
• Nils Gilman’s profile
• Check out their book, Children of a Modest Star: Planetary Thinking for an Age of Crises

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1. 48. Jonathan Blake and Nils Gilman on planetary governance (00:00:00)

2. Intro and background (00:00:40)

3. Key ideas and arguments in their new book, Children of a Modest Star: Planetary Thinking for an Age of Crises (00:01:22)

4. The rise of the nation-state: was this inevitable? (00:05:32)

5. What kind of governance goes on beyond the nation state? (00:10:40)

6. What is planetary subsidiarity? What should be the ideal role of small units of governance - the local, cities, etc? (00:16:56)

7. How do we reconcile the roles and tensions between various scales of governance? (00:22:40)

8. Is climate change a good example of planetary subsidiarity? (00:33:15)

9. Role of Climate finance (00:42:51)