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Amanda Cassatt on Crypto’s Branding Problem, Scaling Serotonin, and Yapping
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47:23In today's episode, we feature a conversation with the strategist behind Ethereum's early marketing initiatives—Amanda Cassatt. She covers her career progression towards becoming the influential figure who helped establish Ethereum as a recognized name in technology, rather than just a hacker project (as it was in its early days). Amanda takes us t…
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Yat Siu on East vs. West Culture, Neo-Capitalism, and Onchain Property Rights
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40:04Hong Kong is strategically positioning itself as a key web3 hub, and there are good reasons to watch what's happening there. A major highlight from Consensus Hong Kong is the quickly evolving regulatory landscape. Recently, Animoca Brands teamed up with Standard Chartered and Hong Kong Telecom to launch a regulated HKD stablecoin – one of the first…
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How To Find A Massive Edge in Crypto with Akshat Vaidya
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42:20In today’s episode, we take a dive through the founders journey and what it’s like to run a massive crypto fund. Clearly, crypto cycles follow a pattern. Skepticism transforms into celebration, then a cooldown period, until something innovative emerges to change the landscape. Each of these cycle presents distinct opportunities. That is what we dis…
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Kain Warwick on The Crime Cycle, Memes vs. Fundamentals, and SOL vs. ETH Culture
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50:57For today’s episode, we look to answer the question “Seriously. What happened to crypto?” alongside Kain. The landscape continues to evolve rapidly as underlying dynamics shift, narratives transform, capital redirects, and new market structures emerge. In today's episode, we sit down with Kain Warwick from Infinex to cover the state of the market a…
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Is Hibachi The Next Hyperliquid?
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50:25Imagine Hyperliquid, but ZK. In today's episode, we cover the evolution of onchain trading and its core challenge: balancing speed with security. It's a constant trade-off in DeFi. Faster systems, like Hyperliquid, tend to lean towards centralization, while more secure ones often sacrifice performance. But there's a solution emerging: Boundless exe…
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Why BlackRock’s BUIDL Fund is Going Multichain
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49:24In today's episode, we cover how regulation meets the greater crypto economy. Treasury tokens have evolved from concept to reality, now trading actively in DeFi markets with BlackRock and Securitize leading the transformation. By converting U.S. treasuries into blockchain assets with institutional backing, they're laying groundwork for wider adopti…
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The Seismic Shift in Infra Investing with Wyatt Lonergan & Xiang Xie
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56:51In today’s episode, we explore the future of building infra for compliance, and the next era of investing following the massive infra wave of 2017-2024. Typically, in crypto there have always been tradeoffs… Want transparency? You lose privacy. Want privacy? Regulators get nervous. Join us as we chat with Wyatt from VanEck Ventures and Xiang Xie fr…
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Justin Drake & Federico Carrone on Ethereum’s Native Rollup Roadmap
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1:17:03For today’s episode, we take a deep dive into native rollups. While rollups improved Ethereum's scaling, they introduced key challenges like centralized control, MEV extraction, buggy execution, and fragmented liquidity across layers. Luckily, there's a new method aiming to maintain rollup benefits while eliminating these issues. Native rollups and…
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How ZK Will Power Bitcoin’s Next Era of Scaling
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1:01:56Bitcoin has dominated crypto, but has remained largely inactive in DeFi. While ETH and Solana lead in onchain activity, a significant amount of BTC remains unused. BitVM introduces a solution. Unlike traditional custodians or multi-sig bridges, it provides a trust-minimized approach to integrating BTC with DeFi – expanding Bitcoin's utility beyond …
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How Shogun Is Using Intents To Power a New Crypto UX
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1:06:01Moving between chains is a hassle. Whether you're swapping, bridging, or managing liquidity across ecosystems, users face clunky interfaces, slow execution, and unnecessary risks. What if that friction disappeared? Enter Shogun, a trading platform that makes every chain feel like one. Using intent-based execution, automated routing, and solver-driv…
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The Bittensor Bull Thesis with James Ross and Mog
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43:13For today's episode, we dive deep into the the intersection of AI and crypto, and discuss how this sector has produced more hype than results (so far). While both fields promise decentralization, combining them effectively has proven challenging. Most projects either centralize AI decision-making or create token systems without clear utility. Bitte…
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Inside Frax's Vision for Institutional Stablecoins with Sam Kazemian
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59:43The stablecoin landscape is evolving as DeFi and traditional finance continue to merge. Today we chat with Sam Kazemian from Frax to break down what's happening in the space. We'll dive into their new FRX USD launch and explore an interesting idea: using stablecoins to bridge the gap between crypto and U.S. treasuries. Sam also walks us through how…
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Purpose-Built AI Chains with Anish Agnihotri and Saneel Seerni of Ritual
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1:11:46AI and crypto are finally converging beyond just trading bots. Purpose-built chains like Ritual are enabling AI-powered smart contracts that can adapt in real-time – think automated trading strategies that adjust to market conditions or DeFi positions that manage themselves. In our chat with Ritual founders Anish and Saneel, they explained how they…
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What Community-Owned AI Really Means with Ben Parr
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50:41For today’s episode, we are digging up our latest knowledge of AI and DeSci. Yesnoerror is flipping the script on research validation. Instead of traditional AI fact-checkers, they're letting the research community influence what gets verified next. Their AI agent, as co-founder Ben Parr explains, digs through millions of papers catching details hu…
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Why 2025 is The Year Crypto Goes Mainstream
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51:03Getting into crypto has never been simpler – but are we keeping users around? In our chat with Seb from Sophon, we explore why most newcomers don't venture past basic trading, despite straight forward onboarding from apps like Phantom and Moonshot. Seb proposes a fresh take: instead of focusing on speculation, use ZKTLS to seamlessly bring real-wor…
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How AI x ZK Will Power A New Era of Crypto with Scott Dykstra
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52:58Blockchain systems face limitations with large complex datasets, as smart contracts weren't designed for intensive computations. Space and Time addresses this with their ZK Co-Processor, enabling smart contracts to process complex calculations while maintaining security. This opens up practical applications: loyalty programs with historical trackin…
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Why ZK Proof Adoption Will Explode in 2025
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48:12Zero-knowledge proofs are evolving from complex cryptographic tools into practical blockchain solutions. Like the evolution from mainframe computers to smartphones, ZK proofs are transforming how we approach crypto technology. RiskZero and Irreducible are leading this change through innovations in binary fields and hardware acceleration, making ZK …
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The Geopolitical Bitcoin Space Race with Muneeb Ali
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39:54Today's episode takes a deep dive into the next era of Bitcoin, the network, and BTC the asset. As Bitcoin transitions from retail speculation to institutional adoption, new infrastructure is quietly reshaping its capabilities. Stacks stands at the forefront of this evolution. BitVM and its iterations are progressing faster than expected, turning t…
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America’s Crypto Golden Era with Stani Kulechov and Omer Goldberg
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54:21For today's episode, we discuss the rise of Aave and a new era of crypto in America. Trump is President! Aave turns 5! We caught up with Aave founder Stani Kulechov and Chaos Labs' Omer Goldberg to talk about the Trump Effect on DeFi, what's new in Aave V4, and where DeFAI is headed. World Liberty Finance, the Trump Family DeFi business set to laun…
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Superchain 2025 Economic Outlook with Mark Tyneway
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1:02:22Today, we're diving deep into Optimism's Superchain with Mark Tyneway, who's been leading efforts to revolutionize how blockchain networks interact. Mark shares insights from his work with the Ethereum Interop Forum and breaks down why we might be overcomplicating decentralization. The Superchain vision? Making different blockchain networks work to…
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Tarun Chitra vs. DeSci Debate with Benji Leibowitz
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1:03:10For today's episode, we explore whether or not the saying: "Most DeSci projects today are just ICOs in a lab coat" is truth or an overexaggeration. When Tarun Chitra dropped this line during our chat, the Pump.Science founder Benji Lebowitz nearly hopped out of his seat. What followed was one of the most fascinating debates we've had on the show ab…
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Programmable IP In The Age of AI with Jason Zhao
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1:02:04For today's episode, we were joined by Jason Zhao of Story Protocol to discuss the intersection of IP and AI. The convergence of blockchain, AI, and creative content isn't just reshaping how we think about intellectual property—it's creating the next major frontier in crypto. While others chase the latest DeFi trends, Story has emerged as one of th…
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2025 Crypto & AI Predictions with Haseeb Qureshi
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1:20:26For today's special episode, we were joined by Haseeb of Dragonfly to discuss his 2025 predictions in-depth. The intersection of artificial intelligence and DeFi is no longer a distant future—it's happening now. As AI tools become more sophisticated, they're fundamentally changing how developers approach smart contracts, how projects structure toke…
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How To Build A Web3 Gaming Empire With Jeff "Jihoz" Zirlin
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25:08For today's episode, we are live from Bangkok again discussing what it takes to build a massive userbase onchain from the ground up. Picture this: It's early days, and Axie Infinity is trying to scale on Ethereum. They experiment with Loom Network, but like many early solutions, it just can't handle their explosive growth. Rather than compromise, t…
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The Massive 'Infra to Apps' Shift in Crypto Investing with Wei Dai
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38:05For today's podcast, we were joined by Wei Dai, a researcher at 1kx and PhD cryptographer, to discuss investing in crypto's killer apps, the shift from infra to apps, and interop. Think of rollup clusters as the high-speed railways of blockchain - they're not merely accelerating transactions, they're fundamentally transforming how we approach value…
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Rollup-Boost, Unichain, And TEEs With Hasu & Robert Miller
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1:22:48In today's episode, we explore how sometimes the best innovations come from rethinking the basics rather than fixing what already exists. That's exactly what Flashbots is achieving with their groundbreaking innovations in the rollup space - creating something entirely new instead of patching the old. At its core, this is about building a better tra…
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Mert Mumtaz on Pudgy Penguins, Solana's Vision, and The Blockchain Endgame
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1:17:03For today's episode, we sit down with Mert Mumtaz to examine Solana's technical architecture and its impact on blockchain scalability. Solana established itself by achieving high speeds and low transaction costs, challenging traditional blockchain limitations. The platform's approach to scaling focuses on increasing bandwidth while reducing latency…
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What Is The Big FHE Unlock? With Guy Zyskind
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27:46Privacy-enabled blockchain technology is transforming how we process sensitive data. In conversation with Guy Zyskind, we explore how Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) allows smart contracts to compute encrypted data while maintaining security. Real-world applications are already emerging on Arbitrum's infrastructure - from sealed-bid auctions pre…
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Superchain vs. Arbitrum Orbit Debate with Ryan Wyatt, A.J. Warner, and Jill Gunter
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54:13For today's episode, we decided to up the spice levels and have some fun. While technical specifications and token metrics often dominate L2 discussions, a more compelling story lies beneath the surface: the fundamental philosophical and strategic differences between Ethereum's leading scaling solutions, Arbitrum and Optimism. In a recent roundtabl…
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Crypto's New Valuation Frameworks with Jordi Alexander and Sam Kazemian
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1:09:01For today's episode, we are discussing the evolving frameworks for understanding value in the crypto markets, with the goal of answering the following: How do we value digital assets in an ecosystem that's constantly evolving? We were joined with industry veterans Jordi Alexander and Sam Kazemian who both revealed fascinating insights in how we sho…
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Steven Goldfeder on Arbitrum’s Lore, Orbit Appchain Thesis, and DeFi Renaissance
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39:33In today’s video, we are joined by Steven Goldfeder to discuss scaling Ethereum.Steven Goldfeder joins us to examine Ethereum scaling through Arbitrum's journey - from Princeton research paper to production infrastructure.We'll analyze Orbit's technical architecture, which enables customizable chain deployments, and evaluate their "community source…
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Why Based Rollups Are Ethereum's Best Bet with Sam Battenally
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37:09For today's episode, were taking a deep dive into based rollups to answer the following question:Could the next breakthrough in Ethereum scaling come from working with the network rather than around it? While most rollup solutions build separate consensus layers, an intriguing new approach called based rollups takes a different path – leveraging Et…
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How To Become The Best Crypto Investor Of All Time with Santiago Santos
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1:33:42Beyond protocols and price charts, today's episode dives into navigating crypto as an investor, builder, and human being. Our conversation with Santi spans from deeply personal insights on mental health and finding meaning, to why crypto remains one of today's most transformative industries. At its core is a powerful message about belief - the conv…
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How Fast Confirmations Will Improve Rollup UX with Ben Fisch and Matt Pearring
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35:47Today's episode explores how the rollup-centric vision for Ethereum brought massive scalability gains, but also new challenges - from fragmented liquidity to complex coordination across execution layers. Enter Espresso and Arbitrum's collaboration, tackling these hurdles head-on. At its core is Espresso's fast confirmation system, enabling rollups …
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AggLayer Mainnet Launch Is Coming With Marc Boiron
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42:14The blockchain landscape is evolving beyond isolated chains and fragmented liquidity. Enter AggLayer - a framework reimagining how rollups and chains interact. But why does this matter? AggLayer isn't just another interoperability solution. It's a foundational layer that lets chains share network effects while maintaining their independence. Think …
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Nick White and Jon Charbonneau on The Rise of Celestia's Native Ecosystem
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1:03:39In today's episode, we explore the next evolution of the modular blockchain landscape with Nick White and Jon Charbonneu. Celestia's base layer now supports 21 chains and is pushing sovereign rollups as the next step. As a minimalist data availability focused L1, Celestia has had a big year with a lot yet to come. Our conversation explores the mech…
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Can Elastic Chain Solve Crypto's Biggest Problem? With Alex Gluchowski
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41:59For today's episode, we dive into Elastic Chain and the core principles of ZK technology. Imagine if interacting across blockchains was as simple as sending an email - no fragmented bridges, no multiple wallets. That's exactly what ZK Sync's Elastic Chain aims to deliver. At its core, Elastic Chain is built on a powerful premise: scalability, inter…
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Ed Felten on Arbitrum DAO, Timeboost, and His Newest Research
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28:06For today's episode, the spotlight is on Arbitrum—not just the L2 you’ve come to know, but a growing network exploring new dimensions of scaling, decentralization, and interoperability. From innovative concepts like BOLD for permissionless validation to Timeboost’s approach to tackling MEV and decentralized sequencing challenges, there’s a lot to u…
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Max Resnick on Ethereum's Roadmap, Economics, and Alignment Taxes
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55:54For today's episode, we’re diving into one of the most controversial conversations around Ethereum’s future—the decisions required to create a truly thriving onchain ecosystem.Joined by Max Resnick, we raised key questions about the future of rollups, appchains, and Ethereum’s economic structure.Are rollups helping Ethereum grow, or are they parasi…
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The Biggest Shift In Crypto Investing Since ICOs with Anil Lulla & Fabrizio Giabardo
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54:57For today's episode, a thanksgiving day special, we are breaking down an evolving model in the crypto space that looks beyond traditional VC funding. Legion, a platform built from the ground up to address issues with token launches, is reshaping how communities and projects interact with each other. We are teaming up with Legion to bring early stag…
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Tarun Chitra and Jon Charbonneau on Solana vs. Ethereum Valuation Outlook
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34:37For today's episode, we were joined by Tarun & Jon to take a closer look at one of the most compelling debates in crypto: The valuation, 'moneyness', collateral asset viability, and onchain usage of ETH vs. SOL. Is there a real chance that Solana could flip Ethereum in the next several years? Ethereum, with its ETF advantage and rollup-centric focu…
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Infinex's Vampire Attack on CEXs with Kain Warwick and Jed Watson
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1:04:48Today, we're exploring a project that has its sights set on making onchain DeFi just as approachable as traditional exchanges and brokerages. Infinex, led by Kain and Jed, brings a fresh take to the DeFi landscape by prioritizing user experience and easing the transition for those who are familiar with centralized platforms like Binance but hesitan…
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Anthony Sassano on The Past, Present, And Future of Ethereum
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57:48Today, we’re diving into the story of Ethereum—its past, its present, and its ambitious path forward with a core leader of the community, and founder of The Daily Gwei, Anthony Sassano. Ethereum’s evolution is a tale of resilience and innovation. From surviving brutal bear markets to leading the charge with decentralized applications and L2 solutio…
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Andre Cronje on DeFi, Sonic Network, and His New Apps
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1:54:20Welcome to a blast from the past. Imagine this: You're on your laptop in summer 2020, when you see a message from a friend "new yield farm just opened called Yearn, you can only farm it for one week with DAI." You ape in. The rest is history, and DeFi was (more or less) born. That was the early stages of Andre's journey into DeFi. For his latest re…
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Is Beam Chain Good For Ethereum? With Justin Drake
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1:00:40Today, we’re unpacking Beam Chain, a proposal by Justin Drake that’s sparked wide-ranging discussions in the Ethereum community. Andy and Robbie sat down with Justin in Bangkok to discuss this in person, just one day after his presentation. Beam chain aims to accelerate Ethereum’s roadmap by introducing a massive hard fork specifically aimed at the…
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Devcon Soundbites: Espresso Mainnet Exclusive with Ellie Davidson
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7:59In this conversation, Ellie discusses the launch of Espresso on Mainnet, focusing on the significance of the Global Confirmation Layer for decentralized sequencing and interoperability among rollups. The discussion covers the benefits of fast and safe bridging, the potential for cross-rollup transactions, and the positive reception from the communi…
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Devcon Soundbites: How EtherFi Plans To Generate $250M+ In Revenue in 2025
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17:24In this conversation, Mike from EtherFi discusses the vision and differentiation of EtherFi as a DeFi protocol, its product suite, business model, and strategies for onboarding new users. He emphasizes the importance of building user-friendly products that allow individuals to manage their finances without traditional banks, while also addressing t…
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Memecoins, Macro, And AI with Crypto Billionaire Arthur Hayes & Murad Mahmudov
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1:13:19Memecoins are absolutely dominating mindshare in today's crypto economy. While they might be easy to dismiss as passing fads, there appears to be something bigger happening here which we wanted to explore. So, we sat down with Arthur Hayes and Murad Mahmudov to discuss the unique structure of memecoins as a new asset class designed for a generation…
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How Camp Is Bridging The Gap With Social Data
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26:04We're live again from the studio from Singapore for EigenLayer Unlocked, this time for episode 21 with Nirav Murthy about Camp Network. Today’s piece dives into a unique approach to building lasting connections in Web3, using pre-exisiting data from prominent social media platforms. With Camp, we’re looking at a shift from single-transaction incent…
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What Is The Next Phase of Onchain Crypto? With Predicate
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50:41Welcome to episode 20 of EigenLayer Unlocked. In today's video, we dive into the mechanics behind Predicate, led by Nikhil Raghuveera, and their goal to streamline transaction prerequisites across crypto. This idea of “transaction prerequisites” may sound a bit like a mouthful, but the way we are thinking about it is bringing the crypto onchain UX …
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