Deeply researched, technical interviews with experts thinking about AI and technology. Hosted, recorded, researched, and produced by Daniel Bashir. thegradientpub.substack.com
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Passionate about exploring new frontiers of storytelling and immersing the audience in imaginative worlds. Join me on a journey to undiscovered places as we discover new ways to tell stories across mediums and formats. I can't wait to take you on an adventure!
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The podcast where film-fans, Sol Harris and Allen Turing, take a guest on a journey to Development Hell to discuss a film, then pitch their ideas for the sequel.
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Dan Bowen and Ray Fleming are experienced education renegades who have worked in many various educational institutions and educational companies across the world. They talk about Artificial Intelligence in Education - what it is, how it works, and the different ways it is being used. It's not too serious, or too technical, and is intended to be a good conversation. Please note the views on the podcast are our own or those of our guests, and not of our respective employers (unless we say othe ...
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Series 9, Episode 9 - Homework and Sex News How do people actually use ChatGPT? How do people use ChatGPT? We analyzed real AI chatbot conversations - The Washington Post Make AI tools to reduce teacher workloads, tech companies urged https://www.theguardian.com/education/article/2024/aug/28/make-ai-tools-to-reduce-teacher-workloads-tech-companies-…
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Davidad Dalrymple: Towards Provably Safe AI
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Episode 137 I spoke with Davidad Dalrymple about: * His perspectives on AI risk * ARIA (the UK’s Advanced Research and Invention Agency) and its Safeguarded AI Programme Enjoy—and let me know what you think! Davidad is a Programme Director at ARIA. He was most recently a Research Fellow in technical AI safety at Oxford. He co-invented the top-40 cr…
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Series 9 Episode 7 - Rose Luckin - Satnav for the mind?
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This week we hear from Professor Rose Luckin, from University College London and Educate Ventures Research In the podcast, Rose mentioned the 1% project in Finland from 2020 - here's some reporting on it Through Educate Ventures Research there are a range of AI consultancy and training services for schools, including the AI Readiness Online Course …
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Clive Thompson: Tales of Technology
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Episode 136 I spoke with Clive Thompson about: * How he writes * Writing about the climate and biking across the US * Technology culture and persistent debates in AI * Poetry Enjoy—and let me know what you think! Clive is a journalist who writes about science and technology. He is a contributing writer forWired magazine, and is currently writing hi…
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Series 9 Episode 6 - News and Research - Academic Integrity again...
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News TEQSA's new paper on Academic Integrity & AI The evolving risk to academic integrity posed by generative artificial intelligence: Options for immediate action https://www.teqsa.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-08/evolving-risk-to-academic-integrity-posed-by-generative-artificial-intelligence.pdf State of Generative AI in the Enterprise: An Aust…
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Judy Fan: Reverse Engineering the Human Cognitive Toolkit
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Episode 136 I spoke with Judy Fan about: * Our use of physical artifacts for sensemaking * Why cognitive tools can be a double-edged sword * Her approach to scientific inquiry and how that approach has developed Enjoy—and let me know what you think! Judy is Assistant Professor of Psychology at Stanford and director of the Cognitive Tools Lab. Her l…
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From Pod to Stage - Where to Find Dan and Ray Next
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BONUS EPISODE ! We'd love to meet more of our listeners in person, so here's a list of events over the next few weeks when Dan, Ray, or Dan and Ray are speaking about AI in Education. One of the things that makes the podcast special is the amazing stories we get from our guests, and there's more stories than fit into an episode, and we're always on…
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From Burnout to Breakthrough: Amanda Bickerstaff on AI's Role in Education
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In this episode of the AI in Education podcast, hosts Dan and Ray welcome Amanda Bickerstaff, an experienced educator, keynote speaker, researcher, and founder of AI for Education. Amanda shares her journey from traditional teaching to embracing AI during her time in Australia and the US. She explains the transformative potential of generative AI i…
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L.M. Sacasas: The Questions Concerning Technology
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Episode 135 I spoke with L. M. Sacasas about: * His writing and intellectual influences * The value of asking hard questions about technology and our relationship to it * What happens when we decide to outsource skills and competency * Evolving notions of what it means to be human and questions about how to live a good life Enjoy—and let me know wh…
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"AI Is Here to Help, Not to Replace Anybody" says Researcher - Series 9 Episode 3
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Holy smokes, we missed the party that should have been Episode 100! So now we're going to have a belated party episode later. Oh well, this week's episode is not to be stopped, so yet again Dan and Ray discuss the most interesting research on the use of AI in Education from the recent publications. But before that we started with a quick news summa…
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Pete Wolfendale: The Revenge of Reason
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Episode 134 I spoke with Pete Wolfendale about: * The flaws in longtermist thinking * Selections from his new book, The Revenge of Reason * Metaphysics * What philosophy has to say about reason and AI Enjoy—and let me know what you think! Pete is an independent philosopher based in Newcastle. Dr. Wolfendale got both his undergraduate degree and his…
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Anthony England - Building a Community of Learning Series 9 Episode 2
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This episode of the AI in Education podcast features an interview with Anthony England, the Director of Innovative Learning Technologies at Pymble Ladies College in Sydney. Anthony, known for his impressive shirt collection and his kind-hearted approach to education, shares his insights on the challenges and opportunities presented by AI in assessm…
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Peter Lee: Computing Theory and Practice, and GPT-4's Impact
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Episode 133 I spoke with Peter Lee about: * His early work on compiler generation, metacircularity, and type theory * Paradoxical problems * GPT-4s impact, Microsoft’s “Sparks of AGI” paper, and responses and criticism Enjoy—and let me know what you think! Peter is President of Microsoft Research. He leads Microsoft Research and incubates new resea…
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The Search for the Education Holy Grail in NSW - Series 9 Episode 1
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In this episode Dan and Ray speak to Michelle Michael and Dan Hart from the New South Wales Department of Education about their world leading trial of AI, called NSWEduChat. Michelle is the NSW Department of Education Director: Education Support, Rural Initiatives and Gen AI. Her LinkedIn profile is here. Dan is the Head of AI at the NSW DoE. His L…
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Manuel & Lenore Blum: The Conscious Turing Machine
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Episode 132 I spoke with Manuel and Lenore Blum about: * Their early influences and mentors * The Conscious Turing Machine and what theoretical computer science can tell us about consciousness Enjoy—and let me know what you think! Manuel is a pioneer in the field of theoretical computer science and the winner of the 1995 Turing Award in recognition…
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From AI Detectors to Heartwarming Help: Two Tales of AI in a school
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From AI Detectors to Heartwarming Help: Two Tales of AI in a school Series 8 Episode 11 In this episode of the AI in Education podcast, hosts Ray Fleming and Dan Bowen interview Martin O'Sullivan, a UK headteacher and lifelong friend of Dan. They talk about two contrasting stories from Martin's school—one highlighting the frustration in the applica…
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Kevin Dorst: Against Irrationalist Narratives
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Episode 131 I spoke with Professor Kevin Dorst about: * Subjective Bayesianism and epistemology foundations * What happens when you’re uncertain about your evidence * Why it’s rational for people to polarize on political matters Enjoy—and let me know what you think! Kevin is an Associate Professor in the Department of Linguistics and Philosophy at …
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The Turing Test - News and Research
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Another episode rounding up the latest news and research on AI in Education. The links below go straight to all the news stories and research papers discussed this week NEWS Victorian "Generative Artificial Intelligence Policy" for government schools. https://www2.education.vic.gov.au/pal/generative-artificial-intelligence/policy Meeting the AI Ski…
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David Pfau: Manifold Factorization and AI for Science
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Episode 130 I spoke with David Pfau about: * Spectral learning and ML * Learning to disentangle manifolds and (projective) representation theory * Deep learning for computational quantum mechanics * Picking and pursuing research problems and directions David’s work is really (times k for some very large value of k) interesting—I’ve been inspired to…
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Dan Ingvarson - Unpacking AI's Role in Modern Education and Assessment
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Continuing our Series 8, focused on the topic of assessment, and the impact of AI, roving reporter Ray visits Fitzroy, Victoria, to interview Dan Ingvarson, a notable founder and executive consultant in the field of AI in education, whilst co-host Dan (Welsh Dan?) joins remotely. Dan (Ingvarson) discusses his background and extensive work in AI pol…
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Dan Hart and Michelle Michael: Bringing AI to Students in New South Wales
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Episode 129 I spoke with Dan Hart and Michelle Michael about: * Developing NSWEduChat, an AI-powered chatbot designed and delivered by the NSW Department of Education for students and teachers. * The challenges in effectively teaching students as technology develops * Understanding and defining the importance of the classroom Enjoy—and let me know …
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Chicken Little's News and Research
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Content warning! This episode talks about an academic research paper titled "ChatGPT is bulls**t", and we've not edited the word out - in fact, we've gone to town with it, talking about the different types of it (in the strictest academic sense). So you may not want to play this in the car on your school run! The news item discussed is: Student cra…
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Kristin Lauter: Private AI, Homomorphic Encryption, and AI for Cryptography
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Episode 129 I spoke with Kristin Lauter about: * Elliptic curve cryptography and homomorphic encryption * Standardizing cryptographic protocols * Machine Learning on encrypted data * Attacking post-quantum cryptography with AI Enjoy—and let me know what you think! Kristin is Senior Director of FAIR Labs North America (2022—present), based in Seattl…
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Wow, this week we have a bumper episode with more resources than a GPT factory! Any time we get a guest making their second appearance, and therefore enter our Hall of Fame, then we officially dub them "Friend of the Show". And so this week, we've got Friend of the Show Leon Furze sharing his experiences and expertise. Here are the links and posts …
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Sergiy Nesterenko: Automating Circuit Board Design
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Episode 128 I spoke with Sergiy Nesterenko about: * Developing an automated system for designing PCBs * Difficulties in human and automated PCB design * Building a startup at the intersection of different areas of expertise By the way — I hit 40 ratings on Apple Podcasts (and am at 66 on Spotify). It’d mean a lot (really, a lot) if you’d consider l…
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This week we set the episode timer for 15 minutes, and managed to get through just five papers before the buzzer went off! So we have plenty more papers to discuss in future episodes... ENHANCING K-12 STUDENTS’ PERFORMANCE IN CHEMISTRY THROUGH CHATGPT-POWERED BLENDED LEARNING IN THE EDUCATION 4.0 ERA https://library.iated.org/view/ORTIZDEZARATE2024…
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C. Thi Nguyen: Values, Legibility, and Gamification
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Episode 127 I spoke with Christopher Thi Nguyen about: * How we lose control of our values * The tradeoffs of legibility, aggregation, and simplification * Gamification and its risks Enjoy—and let me know what you think! C. Thi Nguyen as of July 2020 is Associate Professor of Philosophy at the University of Utah. His research focuses on how social …
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Vivek Natarajan: Towards Biomedical AI
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Episode 126 I spoke with Vivek Natarajan about: * Improving access to medical knowledge with AI * How an LLM for medicine should behave * Aspects of training Med-PaLM and AMIE * How to facilitate appropriate amounts of trust in users of medical AI systems Vivek Natarajan is a Research Scientist at Google Health AI advancing biomedical AI to help sc…
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Chris Goodall - Assessment, personalisation and chainsaws
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Assessment - Chris Goodall In this episode of the AI Education Podcast, host Dan converses with Chris Goodall, the head of digital education at the Bourne Education Trust in England. They discuss the integration of AI into education, how it can be used to enhance teaching and learning processes, and the impact of personalized AI tools on students a…
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Research Update - 31st May 2024
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Research Update - 31st May 2024 Honestly folks, we've been trying to keep. We really have. But we have so much great content in the fortnightly (or is it bi-weekly?) interviews, that we've had to bite the bullet and switch to weekly podcasts, so that we can still fit in the Research Updates! Going forwards you'll get a longer interview-style podcas…
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Thomas Mullaney: A Global History of the Information Age
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Episode 125 False universalism freaks me out. It doesn’t freak me out as a first principle because of epistemic violence; it freaks me out because it works. I spoke with Professor Thomas Mullaney about: * Telling stories about your work and balancing what feels meaningful with practical realities * Destabilizing our understandings of the technologi…
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Jason Lodge - Guiding Through Assessments
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This week we continue our series on Assessment and AI. Ray talks with Jason Lodge from The University of Queensland, and who must have the longest business card in Australia, as he's Associate Professor of Educational Psychology in School of Education and Deputy Associate Dean in the Faculty of Humanities, Arts and Social Sciences! The conversation…
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Seth Lazar: Normative Philosophy of Computing
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Episode 124 You may think you’re doing a priori reasoning, but actually you’re just over-generalizing from your current experience of technology. I spoke with Professor Seth Lazar about: * Why managing near-term and long-term risks isn’t always zero-sum * How to think through axioms and systems in political philosphy * Coordination problems, econom…
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Suhail Doshi: The Future of Computer Vision
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Episode 123 I spoke with Suhail Doshi about: * Why benchmarks aren’t prepared for tomorrow’s AI models * How he thinks about artists in a world with advanced AI tools * Building a unified computer vision model that can generate, edit, and understand pixels. Suhail is a software engineer and entrepreneur known for founding Mixpanel, Mighty Computing…
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University of Sydney and the future of assessment
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AI and the Future of Assessment: Transforming Educational Practices Episode Overview: In this episode of the AI Education Podcast, hosts Dan and Ray, alongside guests Adam Bridgman and Danny Liu, dive into the evolving landscape of academic assessment in the age of artificial intelligence. Recorded in the University of Sydney's own studios, this di…
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Azeem Azhar: The Exponential View
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Episode 122 I spoke with Azeem Azhar about: * The speed of progress in AI * Historical context for some of the terminology we use and how we think about technology * What we might want our future to look like Azeem is an entrepreneur, investor, and adviser. He is the creator of Exponential View, a global platform for in-depth technology analysis, a…
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David Thorstad: Bounded Rationality and the Case Against Longtermism
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Episode 122 I spoke with Professor David Thorstad about: * The practical difficulties of doing interdisciplinary work * Why theories of human rationality should account for boundedness, heuristics, and other cognitive limitations * why EA epistemics suck (ok, it’s a little more nuanced than that) Professor Thorstad is an Assistant Professor of Phil…
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It's time to start a new series, so welcome to Series 8! This episode is the warm up into the series that's going to be focused on Assessment. We'll interview some fascinating people about what's happening in school and university assessment, how we might think differently about assessing students, and what you can be thinking about if you're a tea…
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Ryan Tibshirani: Statistics, Nonparametric Regression, Conformal Prediction
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Episode 121 I spoke with Professor Ryan Tibshirani about: * Differences between the ML and statistics communities in scholarship, terminology, and other areas. * Trend filtering * Why you can’t just use garbage prediction functions when doing conformal prediction Ryan is a Professor in the Department of Statistics at UC Berkeley. He is also a Princ…
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Sasha Luccioni: Connecting the Dots Between AI's Environmental and Social Impacts
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In episode 120 of The Gradient Podcast, Daniel Bashir speaks to Sasha Luccioni. Sasha is the AI and Climate Lead at HuggingFace, where she spearheads research, consulting, and capacity-building to elevate the sustainability of AI systems. A founding member of Climate Change AI (CCAI) and a board member of Women in Machine Learning (WiML), Sasha is …
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Michael Sipser: Problems in the Theory of Computation
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In episode 119 of The Gradient Podcast, Daniel Bashir speaks to Professor Michael Sipser. Professor Sipser is the Donner Professor of Mathematics and member of the Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory at MIT. He received his PhD from UC Berkeley in 1980 and joined the MIT faculty that same year. He was Chairman of Applied Mathema…
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Andrew Lee: How AI will Shape the Future of Email
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In episode 118 of The Gradient Podcast, Daniel Bashir speaks to Andrew Lee. Andrew is co-founder and CEO of Shortwave, a company dedicated to building a better product experience for email, particularly by leveraging AI. He previously co-founded and was CTO at Firebase. Have suggestions for future podcast guests (or other feedback)? Let us know her…
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Joss Fong: Videomaking, AI, and Science Communication
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“You get more of what you engage with. Everyone who complains about coverage should understand that every click, every quote tweet, every argument is registered by these publications as engagement. If what you want is really meaty, dispassionate, balanced, and fair explainers, you need to click on that, you need to read the whole thing, you need to…
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The season-ending episode for Series 7, this is the fifteenth in the series that started on 1st November last year with the "Regeneration: Human Centred Educational AI" episode. And it's an unbelievable 87th episode for the podcast (which started in September 2019). When we come back with Series 8 after a short break for Easter, we're going to take…
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Kate Park: Data Engines for Vision and Language
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In episode 116 of The Gradient Podcast, Daniel Bashir speaks to Kate Park. Kate is the Director of Product at Scale AI. Prior to joining Scale, Kate worked on Tesla Autopilot as the AI team’s first and lead product manager building the industry’s first data engine. She has also published research on spoken natural language processing and a travel m…
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The University of Sydney's Cogniti AI bot
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This week we talked with Professor Danny Liu and Dr Joanne Hinitt, of The University of Sydney, about the Cogniti AI service that's been created in the university, and how it's being used to support teaching and learning. Danny is a molecular biologist by training, programmer by night, researcher and academic developer by day, and educator at heart…
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Ben Wellington: ML for Finance and Storytelling through Data
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In episode 115 of The Gradient Podcast, Daniel Bashir speaks to Ben Wellington. Ben is the Deputy Head of Feature Forecasting at Two Sigma, a financial sciences company. Ben has been at Two Sigma for more than 15 years, and currently leads efforts focused on natural language processing and feature forecasting. He is also the author of data science …
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Venkatesh Rao: Protocols, Intelligence, and Scaling
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“There is this move from generality in a relative sense of ‘we are not as specialized as insects’ to generality in the sense of omnipotent, omniscient, godlike capabilities. And I think there's something very dangerous that happens there, which is you start thinking of the word ‘general’ in completely unhinged ways.” In episode 114 of The Gradient …
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March News and Research Roundup
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It's a News and Research Episode this week There has been a lot of AI news and AI research that's related to education since our last Rapid Rundown, so we've had to be honest and drop 'rapid' from the title! Despite talking fast, this episode still clocked in just over 40 minutes, and we really can't out what to do - should we talk less, cover less…
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Sasha Rush: Building Better NLP Systems
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In episode 113 of The Gradient Podcast, Daniel Bashir speaks to Professor Sasha Rush. Professor Rush is an Associate Professor at Cornell University and a Researcher at HuggingFace. His research aims to develop natural language processing systems that are safe, fast, and controllable. His group is interested primarily in tasks that involve text gen…
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