Welcome to the Doctor Money Matters podcast. I am your host Dr. Tarang Patel, a practicing diagnostic radiologist in Phoenix, AZ. I started this podcast as a way to share knowledge about financial matters as they relate to health care professionals. We spent many years learning about the science and art of providing patient care but most of us have relatively little knowledge about reaching financial well being. I know that I had no formal training in setting up investment accounts, negotiat ...
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Ep 62. Doctors and Social Media -- Dana Corriel, MD
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On this episode we talk about social media with Dana Corriel MD, an internal medicine physician and creator of the SoMeDocs group. She recently left the practice of medicine to help physicians develop their online presence. Her goal is to help empower physicians reach their patients, a broader audience, and develop their brand and yet balance it wi…
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Ep 61. Gita Pensa, MD -- Malpractice litigation and its impact on the physician
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Welcome to the Doctor Money Matters Podcast. In this episode we talk with Gita Pensa MD, an emergency medicine physician and fellow podcaster who created an incredible podcast which is a must listen about lawsuits in medicine and the personal impact it had on her. Its a “Serial” type podcast which is extremely well done. I highly recommend it. Note…
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Ep. 60 -- Student loan basics with Ben White, MD
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Welcome to the Doctor Money Matters Podcast. In this episode we talk about student loans with Ben White, MD a radiologist and blogger who writes about various topics but has written a FREE book about student loans. Note this episode was recorded pre covid so there have been some changes relating to loan deferrals so please check with your loan serv…
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Ep 59. Joel Greenwald, MD CFP -- Withdrawing assets in retirement
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Welcome to the Doctor Money Matters Podcast. It has certainly been an eventful spring between the Covid crisis and the national protests bringing more attention to the unequal treatment of African Americans by law enforcement, and also the financial market volatility. Our guest was Joel Greenwald, MD a physician turned financial planner in Minnesot…
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Ep. 58 Real Estate Investing with Cory Fawcett, MD
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Welcome to the Doctor Money Matters Podcast. This is a podcast about financial topics related to the healthcare professional. I am your host Dr. Tarang Patel, a diagnostic radiologist in Arizona. Our guest was Cory Fawcett, MD a retired surgeon in Oregon who has written books for medical professionals including The Physicians guide to Real Estate I…
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Ep 57. Introducing What's Up Docs?
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This is a special episode of the podcast in which I am introducing a new project I am working on with Dr. Disha of the Frugal Physician. We are starting a YouTube series called What’s Up Docs? to talk about what's trending in physician social media. In this episode we discuss: a proposed residency for nurse practitioners and physician assistants in…
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Ep 56. Karen Sibert, MD -- Good luck finding a doctor in 10 years.
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Dr. Karen Sibert, an anesthesiologist in California, wrote an article that went viral last week and this weekend as a response to the repeated attacks on physicians by the media and by economists or other "policy experts". The Washington Post said physicians were behaving like muggers. A Noble prize winning economist called us rent seekers. We disc…
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Ep 55. Ian Ippolito -- How to approach crowdfunded real estate investing
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On this episode we talk with Ian Ippolito who runs a real estate crowd funding website which is a valuable resource for those who are interested in this space. We talk about Ian's approach to real estate investing. Evaluate sponsor first (experience through a full business cycle) Lots of sponsors right now have not gone through a downturn Look at t…
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Ep 54. Falgun Chokshi, MD --Artificial Intelligence in medicine
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On this episode we talk with Dr. Falgun Chokshi, a radiologist and thought leader in artificial intelligence. We talk about the role of AI in the future of medicine. Will AI replace radiologists? Will there be fewer jobs for physicians in the future? What are the capabilities of AI and where does it fall short? We also talk about why the stakes are…
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Ep 53. Opportunity Zones -- Dan Gauthier
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On this episode, my guest is Dan Gauthier of the Rose Law Group in Scottsdale, AZ. We are talking about Opportunity Zones. We discuss what they are, how they can be a tax advantage investment. Dan has written about these previously in national media and I thought he would be a great resource to learn more about them. He is not selling anything whic…
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Ep. 52 -- Surprise (Balance) Billing with Dr. Amy Cho
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On this episode, my guest is Amy Mecozzi Cho MD, an emergency medicine physician in MN who is passionate about making sure physicians voices are heard, particularly on the issue that is all over the news lately, Surprise (Balance) Billing. This is when the medical group providing the care charges the patient the balance between their fees and the (…
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Ep 51 -- Starting a DPC practice
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On this episode, my guests are a group of physicians who are in the Direct Primary Care space. They each have their own practice. Dr. Jessica Edwards is starting a practice in TX. Dr. Mitch Li is starting one in the Chicago area. Dr. Clodagh Ryan has a 2 year old practice also in Chicago and is a veteran and mentor in this space. In the era of phys…
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Ep 50. Dividend Investing with Nick McCullum
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On this episode, my guest is Nick McCullum of SureDividend.com. We talk about dividend investing as a strategy. Everyone likes the idea of passive income and dividends are about as passive as it gets. Money comes in monthly, quarterly, or whatever frequency the company pays it out. Sure there are risks, but over the long term, dividend paying stock…
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Ep 49. Dr. Disha MD -- The Frugal Physician
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On this episode, my guest is Dr. Disha of The Frugal Physician blog. We talked about her journey from being in debt to quickly paying off loans as a primary care physician despite a few financial setbacks. Obviously it is easier to payback loans in a dual high income couple but for many of my listeners, there is only one earner or one high income e…
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On this episode, my guest is Rick Ferri, CFA, a well known advocate of index fund investing. Passive investing (just using ETFs does not mean passive investing) What to do before you do portfolio construction Accumulation of assets (savings rate first and then portfolio optimization) Living below your means Accumulating knowledge Portfolio construc…
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This is a special episode of the Doctor Money Matters podcast. I am doing a cohosted joint podcast with Ryan Inman of the Financial Residency podcast. In this episode we interview each other. Ryan is a CFP who runs his own financial planning firm catering to physicians. His wife is a physician as well so he really understands the issues that physic…
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Ep 46. Sarah Fallaw PhD -- The Next Millionaire Next Door
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My guest on this podcast is Sarah Fallaw, PhD author of the new book. The Next Millionaire Next Door. This is a follow up to the blockbuster book that her father wrote, The Millionaire Next Door. Sarah and her father worked on the follow up together, but he passed away prior to the release. That book was a big inspiration for me to get my financial…
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Ep 45. Disability Insurance part 2(Q & A with a broker and lawyer)
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This is part 2 of the podcast are Ed Comitz and Stephanie Tsang. Ed is an attorney in AZ who specializes in disability insurance lawsuits. Stephanie is a broker who deals with who deals with disability insurance. Ep 44 is part 1, which you should listen to first if you have not done so yet. We talk about the basic information needed for physicians …
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Ep. 44 Disability Insurance (Q&A with a disability lawyer and broker)
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My guests on this podcast are Ed Comitz and Stephanie Tsang. Ed is an attorney in AZ who specializes in disability insurance lawsuits. Stephanie is a broker who deals with who deals with disability insurance. We talk about the basic information needed for physicians regarding disability insurance. We clear up some of the misconceptions. We discuss …
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Ep 43. Crushing student loan debt with Drs Renee and Nii Darko
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My guests on this podcast are Drs Nii and Renee Darko who paid back significant educational loans nearing nearly $670k over a 3 year period in order to take back control of their financial futures. Nii is a trauma surgeon and Rene is a Ob/Gyn and they worked very hard to pay down this debt. We talk about how they acquired so much debt. What was the…
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Im back. Sorry for the long gap between the last episodes and this one. Holidays and an extremely busy work schedule limited my ability to work on the podcast. I have a series of episodes ready to go and am excited to get back to it. While finance and money are the main topics, I would also like to continue to address other issues that impact healt…
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Ep 42. Kurt Schoppe, MD (part 2) Private Equity buying medical groups. What's the deal?
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Part 2. Private Equity buying medical groups -- What’s the deal? Ep 42 is part 2 (Ep 41 is part 1) of the episode talking about private equity buying medical groups. There is an increasing amount of private equity purchasing/partnering of medical practices in the US. We are seeing in in a variety of fields such as radiology, anesthesiology, emergen…
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Ep 41. Kurt Schoppe, MD -- Private equity buying medical groups. What's the deal? (Part 1)
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Welcome to the Doctor Money Matters Podcast. This is a podcast about financial topics related to the healthcare professional. I am your host Dr. Tarang Patel, a diagnostic radiologist in Arizona. The topic on this episode is the increasing amount of private equity purchasing/partnering of medical practices in the US. We are seeing in in a variety o…
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Ep. 40. Leslie Kane, MA -- Medscape Physician Salary and Net Worth Surveys.
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The 2018 Medscape Salary and Wealth/Net Worth Survey Your income is the biggest contributor to your overall financial health for most people. As physicians we don’t always know what we are worth. It is important to look at the market data. My guest on this podcast is Lesley Kane of Medscape business of medicine who is in charge of the annual physic…
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Ep 39. Robert Felberg, MD -- Negotiation skills for Physicians
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Negotiation for MDs How are your negotiation skills? Do you love bargaining or do you cringe at the thought of trying to make a deal. Negotiation is a critical tool in our careers and can literally make or break our financial and professional futures. My guest Robert Felberg, MD talks about important topics in negotiation as they relate to physicia…
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Ep 38. Doc G (part 2) Getting to 5X income as an internist in a competitive market
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Doc G This is a 2 part episode, so make sure you also listened to episode 37 (part 1) first How did this internal medicine physician achieve a high net worth ($6M) at a young age? How was he able to 5X his income from the time he started practicing to now as a primary care physician in a large metro area? Many physicians are resigned to the work, w…
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Ep. 37 Doc G -- Getting to 5X income as a primary care physician (part 1)
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Ep 37 This is a 2 part episode, so make sure you listen to episode 38 (part 2) How did this internal medicine physician achieve a high net worth ($6M) at a young age? How was he able to 5X his income from the time he started practicing to now as a primary care physician in a large metro area? Many physicians are resigned to the work, work, work men…
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Ep. 36 Westby Fisher, MD -- MOC? More like WTF (part 2)
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WTF is up MOC? (Part 2) If you have not listened to part 1, please do so first. (Ep 35) How many of you listening write checks to your specialty board for the privilege of Maintenance of Certification? I will pay over $3k over a 10 yr period plus a ton of paperwork to my board so they can sign off on my certification. Most of you listeners do so as…
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Ep 35. Westby Fisher, MD -- WTF is up with MOC (part 1)
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WTF is up MOC? How many of you listening write checks to your specialty board for the privilege of Maintenance of Certification? I will pay over $3k over a 10 yr period plus a ton of paperwork to my board so they can sign off on my certification. Most of you listeners do so as well. We do this because its just another of the burdensome regulations …
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Doctor Money Matters -- random thoughts
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Congrats to new residents. It’s great to see your enthusiasm and brings back energy to everyone of us. We all remember the feelings of panic we had during our first days as actual doctors. Even when you talk to grizzled old attendings, if you are nice and enthusiastic, they will teach you. I have taken a hiatus from the podcast this month. We took …
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Episode 34. Quynh-Lan Nguyen, MD -- Credit card hacking
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On this episode, I interviewed Dr. Quynh Lan Nguyen, a traveling hospitalist and blogger about how she and her husband have turned credit card hacking into a lifestyle that allows them to travel around the world. We talk about her strategies and recommendations and whether its still possible to do this today. We also talk about her interest in the …
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Ep 33. Amy Shah, MD -- Creating a successful side gig
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Welcome to another Doctor Money Matters episode. In this episode I talk with Dr. Amy Shah, an allergy specialist and good friend who turned her passion for nutrition and health into a few solid side gigs. Before I introduce Amy, I would like to talk a bit about why so many doctors are looking for side gigs. It seems crazy that people would undergo …
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Ep 32. Jason Mizell, MD -- Teaching medical students about finances
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Episode 32 Jason Mizell, MD First I would like to thank you all for continuing to listen to the podcast and also for those of you who have joined the Doctor Money Matters facebook group. Group has grown by nearly 50% last month and the discussions have been spirited. Please continue to add your physician and medical professional colleagues so they …
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Ep 31. Ike Devji Part 2 -- Assorted legal questions
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Welcome to the Doctor Money Matters Podcast. This is a podcast about financial topics related to the healthcare professional. I am your host Dr. Tarang Patel, a diagnostic radiologist in Arizona. Our guest on this episode is Ike Devji, JD an attorney in Phoenix, AZ. Ike is our first returning guest. He previously discussed asset protection on episo…
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Ep 30. Ike Devji part 1-- Basics of estate planning
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Welcome to the Doctor Money Matters Podcast. This is a podcast about financial topics related to the healthcare professional. I am your host Dr. Tarang Patel, a diagnostic radiologist in Arizona. Our guest on this episode is Ike Devji, JD an attorney in Phoenix, AZ. Ike is our first returning guest. He previously discussed asset protection on episo…
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William Bernstein, MD -- Lessons from an investment guru
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Episode 29. On this episode, I interviewed a physician investing legend, Dr. William Bernstein. He is a neurologist turned financial author and investment advisor. Now most of us will not be able to reach the asset threshold need for him to manage our money, but the good news is we don’t have to. He provides great advice for the rest of us also. I …
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Ep 28. Kayee Tong -- Managing medical school and cryptocurrencies
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Episode 28 Doctor Money Matters. Welcome to another Doctor Money Matters episode. In this episode I talk with Kayee Tong, a medical student in TX who is a cryptocurrency expert and recently wrote a post on passiveincomemd about paying for medical school and college with profits from cryptocurrencies. I have mentioned my thoughts about bitcoin previ…
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Episode 27. Drs Nisha Mehta and Parag Butala -- Achieving Balance in a Dual Physician Household
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Welcome to another Doctor Money Matters episode. This episode is about striving for work life balance within the context of a dual physician couple. I talk with a physician couple, Drs. Nisha Mehta and Parag Butala from Charlotte, NC. They are both specialists in demanding fields (Nisha is a radiologist and Parag is a plastic surgeon). In this epis…
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Episode 26. David Anderson, DO and Victor Mangona, MD
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Episode 26 Doctor Money Matters. This is the second part of the Episode 25 podcast. Welcome to another Doctor Money Matters episode. This is a double episode with guests in 2 separate locations in Texas. I split the conversation into 2 separate episodes (25 and 26) so please make sure you listen to both. I interviewed David Anderson, DO and Victor …
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Episode 25. Victor Mangona, MD and David Anderson, DO
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Episode 25 Doctor Money Matters. Welcome to another Doctor Money Matters episode. This is a double episode with guests in 2 separate locations in Texas. I split the conversation into 2 separate episodes (25 and 26) so please make sure you listen to both. I interviewed David Anderson, DO and Victor Mangona, MD, 2 of the most detailed oriented and he…
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Episode 24. Physician on Fire, MD -- Achieving Financial Independence
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Welcome to another Doctor Money Matters episode. This is a great episode. I got to interview one of the superheroes of physicians and finance, the Physician on Fire, the anonymous anesthesiologist who started the very popular financial blog by the same name. In this episode we talk about how he decided to go down the FIRE (financial independence, r…
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Episode 23. Eric Tait, MD MBA -- Altering your financial mindset due to changes in medicine.
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Episode 23 Doctor Money Matters. Welcome to another Doctor Money Matters episode. In this episode I talk with Eric Tait, MD, MBA, an internist and asset manager who started his own investment firm. We discuss why physicians need to achieve financial independence. Dr. Tait’s has a very well thought out perspective on the future of medicine and we ta…
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Episode 22. Ali Chaudhary, MD -- Striking out on your own
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This episode is about taking control as a physician and learning your value. Many doctors don’t understand their dollar value as practicing physicians. It’s not discussed formally in most training situations and we generally are happy with the increase in salary we get from residency/fellowship to becoming attendings. My guest today Dr. Ali Chaudha…
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Episode 21. Peter Kim, MD -- Help with buying your home
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Episode 21 Doctor Money Matters. Welcome to another Doctor Money Matters episode. I would like to thank you for listening. It’s been a year since I started this podcast and creating it has been a great educational experience for me. I really appreciate all my guests for participating and joining me on this journey and I hope you the listener have g…
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Episode 20. Kevin Pho, MD -- Social Media for healthcare professionals
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Episode 20. Kevin Pho, MD -- Kevin MD This episode is about using social media to spread your voice beyond the your local area. Obviously social media has had a tremendous impact on our lives in its relatively short existence from connecting with friends and families to how we get our news to professional development. But how can physicians and oth…
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Episode 19. Bonnie Koo, MD -- Helping Independent Women find Financial Clarity
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Episode 19 Doctor Money Matters. On this episode, my guest is Dr. Bonnie Koo, a dermatologist/finance blogger who is helping educate physicians about the essentials in personal finance. Since we recorded this episode, Bonnie has had many changes in her life including becoming a mother, moving from NY to Philadelphia (Super bowl Champs) and changing…
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Episode 18. Drs. Bepko -- Military medicine to world travelers
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Episode 18 Doctor Money Matters. On this episode, my guests are Drs. Steven and Jenny Bepko, 2 retired Air Force Physicians who are now traveling around the world with their children. In this episode we talk about their careers in the military, the nuances of the military medical system, their experience with finances and deployment. Finally we tal…
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Episode 17. Valerie Jones, MD -- Retired from medicine at age 37
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Episode 17 Doctor Money Matters. On this episode, my guest is Valerie Jones, MD an OB/GYN physician who decided to retire from medicine at age 37. We talk about her background and what led her into and eventually out of medicine. We also discuss how she was financially able to retire at such a young age and advice she has for other physicians. Dr. …
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Episode 16. Tom and Kim Rairdon -- High Income Parents
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How do you balance finances and family? It’s a challenge for most physicians, particularly with school age children. In this episode I talk with Tom and Kim Rairdon of the High Income Parents blog. They focus on many of the financial and family issues that physicians with children face including college savings, retirement, balancing work and famil…
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Episode 15. Eric Levi, MD -- The dark side of doctoring
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In this episode I talk with Dr. Eric Levi, an ENT surgeon who created a viral article recently relating to physician burnout and lack of job satisfaction called the Dark side of doctoring. Eric wrote this article based on his experience as a specialist nearly completing the long process of training in Australia, but I think his experiences are comp…
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